Player Features and Ideas Discussion

To the OP: sorry for the derailment in the thread (though on topic I would have to disagree with changing mechanics as solving the current situation is not impossible).

"Off"-topic:

The agreement I can see happening:
Contesting:
- Keep contests to a minimal amount. When wanting to run many contests in a row, do contact the other fleet(s) in advance.
- Should the other fleet (i.e. target of the contest) be one where a trainee FC is just learning the ropes then contesting such fleets should be discouraged.

Mothership sites:
- The free-for-all method will work best here, as new communities might form in the future and they too will want to have a go at a mothership site.
- To encourage multi-channel support for a mothership site, Allied could be used as a place where mothership fleets can be formed up (from the ground up, as to [evenly] get people from each community).
- A discussion can still be had on mixing shield and armor to do a mothership site, though you would need about double the number of logistics or the armor ships would need to fit some shield resistance modules.
- In any case, should a mothership fleet be full the rest will move to the next incursion. This is to get the ISK flowing again as soon as possible.
- The time for a mothership site to be taken should be when either of these 2 cases is met:
--1) 40 hours after first sight of mobilization. Yes, 40 not 48. This is to give other timezones a chance at mothership sites as well.
--2) First sight of withdrawing.

Banlists:
- To be able to get proper communications going, all banlists should be wiped.
- Use a (up to) 24 hour mute instead of instant banning to act as a warning and to give time to contact others. This contact is needed to avoid unneeded bans happening.

Multiple incursions:
- Due to all our numbers, multiple incursions can be taken down at the same time (even with this agreement) but I, personally, would discourage this such that players don't need to commute between incursions all the time.


Contesting is more into TVP/DIN's favor; MOM-sites more into ISN's favor; banlists are in everyone's favor.

Side note about the Allied channels:
I know there is a channel around (IFCC for example) that has leaders of some communities in there but I am willing to transform/convert/change Allied to such a higher platform.
In this sense the channels would (most likely) be adjusted like this::
- Fleet channel can then be used for the creation of mothership fleets
- Public channel can be used as a sorting hat for getting players into communities (or getting people to know what incursions actually are, a kind of help-channel)
- FC channel can be used as a communication ground for any and all FC's (e.g. to tell about contests and such)
- Council channel can be used to have each community's leaders. Yet to be discussed is then how many representatives per community.

Edit: Can like if you agree here and otherwise just reply with constructive feedback. A simple "no" will not suffice without arguments.

All are great additions, though a preload could happen every now and then by accident (leeroy). Ofcourse doing so on purpose is another matter.

Now to just get all the communities to agree with this...

And that's where it'll get difficult... But I agree with it (but who am I? I'm just a grunt who tries to run incursions with some SWA people every now and then)

This post is going to alienate me from a vast vast majority of the incursion communities, hell probably alienate me from some quite good and close friends but this needs to be put out there, an I make this post on this toon regardless of the repercussions that I know will come from it. Also this will not be very well formatted or done to proper English grammar, but I'm not very good at those, so please bear with me.

I would like to call to any pilot, be them old, middle aged or new to the incursion scene that are sick, tired and generally irritated with all this rubbish going on and hearing about it, as a whole to join the mailing list "I Don't Give a Frak" in-game and reply to me whether yes or no in joining me via a private mail in my following proposal to form up and essentially shut down incursions for as many months as possible, go to a policy of just continually repeating this.

I'm not calling on this to grief to upset people, but it all honesty if all this crap that is being down between each of the communities is going to continue, then lets not cut off the need for the communities as a whole. I know some keep their accounts alive from incursions and I state to them, there are many ways of making isk in EVE, many of these ways can be some semi passively, please explore these options now even if this policy doesn't get implemented.

Anyone that joins the mailing list will hopefully please take up a policy of not "squealing" on each other to leadership of the various channels as if I do get enough support, I plan on taking some time before starting this, also if the leadership of the various communities that haven't banned me feel the need to after this post, I understand why and will hold no grudge save for those I already have.

I just want to make this clear, we will not be going after specific communities with this idea, just going after incursion sites as a whole, an if the leadership of each community chooses to assist us in this plan, we will welcome it as it will continue our goal until it is decided to end it. Hate me, slander me, gank me, I'll be able to cope with this.

Thank you for your time in reading this.

Edit: Also I forgot to add, if this doesn't come to the fold, I will just take it as a sign that this isn't needed, an will not bring it up again.

Oh it's no because of that, it's for a different reason, my post may not have made the point as clearly as it should but it isn't your assumption.

Anyways next.

Never did I say it did not.

Again next.

It is good to see that over a year has passed and nothing - at all - has changed between the incursion communities. Good on you guys.