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Ishtar Level 4 mission runner

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CMD Ishikawa
New Eden Public Security Section 9
#21 - 2013-03-14 13:13:48 UTC
Ishtar can run level 4 missions, specially guristas and serpentis, however like you said is a fancy but by far not the best way.

IMO Domi will do a better work, some target painters will help you a lot managing npc aggro.

I prefer the Rattlesnake because it looks 1000 times better than the flying potato and it's tank is awesome, but that'd require good shield skills.
Mer88
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#22 - 2013-03-16 03:50:04 UTC
ishtar or any other non-bs ships is good for l4 once in a while but if you want to do this for long time, a proper battleship is better. you might want to try a gila first i think u can train one in 5 days or less. the dps and tank should be about the same as ishtar
Ilrania M'nere
Space Underground
Silent Infinity
#23 - 2013-03-22 17:19:50 UTC
Hey guys just want to drop my 2 cents into the mix. I love sentry drones - they are my favorite form of DPS in EVE. I'm very very addicted and i love ships that can use them.

I'm at heart a caldari pilot - missiles/shields- I started out Drake --> Raven --> CNR and then started playing with drone skills/Galente ships like the Myrm and Domi. At the point I had Caldari/Galentee BS and Cruiser to 4 and BC to 5 I found the Gila/Rattlesnake. As a preference both because I have great shield skills and only mediocre armor skills but also because all damage mods are low slots so I prefer to use them as such....... but I love to shield tank myrms/domi. Finding the Gila/Rattlesnake which are essentially made to do that was wonderful. I can run l4's and Forlorn Dens (that is the hardest basic anomaly right? if not I mean the hardest ones that are not complexes) in a Gila. Its a beautiful ship and can do things very quickly. I actually just finished running the Caldari Epic Arc in my Gila and did all but the long low/null sec traveling in it (for those I used a nemesis). I can run the anomalies MUCH faster and easier in the Rattlesnake. I think the new myrm is spectaclar and will be play testing using those as I think they might be better than the Gila now...but can't say for sure yet. Domni is a great ship but I like them better for PVP with their ~1400 dps 150k buffer tanking than for pve. Although I've run anoms with Domi shield buffer tanks and it works pretty well lol.

Gila has
lows: 3 DDA and1 cpu II
mids: 1 omni, 2 large shield ext, and then specific resists and usually a 10mn afterburner II
highs: 1-2 drone range extenders and maybe 1 missile bay for agro.
Has 750dps with just drones (gardII's) I keep those, a longer ranged once (usually wardens but whatever damage type needed for the mission) and then a set of lights/mediums II's for smaller ships. I have found that letting the drones get agro while you sit next to them is a wondeful tanking option, since you can scoop it and redeploy the done in about 3 secs so you lose 1/5 of your damage for 1x 4 sec tick and the NPC's waste time re-targeting you or other drones.

Rattlesnake is a beautiful beast , especially for the lazy semi-afk anom runner.
Lows: 4 DDA II, 2 SPR II,
Med : 1 LSE II, 2 Omni II's, 4 fited resists
High: 2 DLA II's, 4 Cruise missiles 1-2 or torps 1-2 depending on what your doing (only get 150-250 dps out of these so its negligible)
Rigs: 3 large defense field purgers
Drones: 5 garde II's (850 drone dps), 5 curator I's (680 drone dps), 5 hammerheads II, 5 hob II's, whatever else you want to have

This is a DPS fit, if you want more tank drop an omni for another extender and a DDA for another SPR, But tanking Sansha (aka worst thing to tank with a rattlesnake) the above is enough for all anoms. (not complexes).

I recently started using an ishtar on another character to run complexes....I would recommend it over the Gila/Rattlesnake for that use alone - but I prefer the other two for mission running/price/ease of flying and would recommend the Gila to anyone who likes drones/shields as the first ship to train for!!

Note for Sentry Drone Users: The omni directional tracking links are spectacularly useful. I would highly recomend at least 1 navy or 2 navy/tech II's on every drone ship you can manage to get them on. They keep the damage you do each volley at its MAX and drastically increases your actual vs potential dps.

Sabotaged
Veritas Vincit
#24 - 2013-04-10 07:06:09 UTC
I did the Federation Detention Facility FNSBR-106V w/ 2 ishtars using this fit:

http://eve.battleclinic.com/loadout/6052-Solo-L4-Ishtar-Passive-Shield-Tank.html.

Used tech 1 Bouncers tho.

My skills aren't perfect. After 2 hours, 3 battleships remained, they orbit 50-60 and my drone control range is only 40km. I got over it. 666 dps tank wasn't enough in the beginning, had to warp away a few times. I got bored and flew in my buzzard to quickly loot toward the end. It got pwned. :( ~37 million isk, Made only 30 mil from the site. fail. oh well.

Drone interface IV...took 3 minutes to kill a battleship with 8 bouncer T1 drones. They target them alot, but what's funny tho is they try to warp scramble them too.

Target / Total damage / Average damage / Hits / Misses / Hit %
Federation Praktor Hexeris / 118791 / 51.2 / 2161 / 159 / 93%
Federation Praktor Hexeris / 61843 / 49.1 / 1201 / 59 / 95%

http://games.chruker.dk/eve_online/item.php?type_id=25196

You'll be dampened unable to target past 5km which no one comes within. plus warp scrammed. What made this site the most difficult was the fact that you can't target for majority of the time.

According to the forums someone claimed with a faction CNR (1400 dps tank) and barely survived getting out.

I really need T2 drones.

Hit target 4252 times
Missed target 1948 times
Hit percentage 69%
Total damage dealt: 342908
Hit you 6716 times
Missed you 3846 times
Hit percentage 64%
Total damage received: 588963

Hit target 5926 times
Missed target 2092 times
Hit percentage 74%
Total damage dealt: 339120
Hit you 11279 times
Missed you 9743 times
Hit percentage 54%
Total damage received: 680502
Tauranon
Weeesearch
CAStabouts
#25 - 2013-04-10 07:44:47 UTC
Sabotaged wrote:
I did the Federation Detention Facility FNSBR-106V w/ 2 ishtars using this fit:

http://eve.battleclinic.com/loadout/6052-Solo-L4-Ishtar-Passive-Shield-Tank.html.

Used tech 1 Bouncers tho.

My skills aren't perfect. After 2 hours, 3 battleships remained, they orbit 50-60 and my drone control range is only 40km. I got over it. 666 dps tank wasn't enough in the beginning, had to warp away a few times. I got bored and flew in my buzzard to quickly loot toward the end. It got pwned. :( ~37 million isk, Made only 30 mil from the site. fail. oh well.

Drone interface IV...took 3 minutes to kill a battleship with 8 bouncer T1 drones. They target them alot, but what's funny tho is they try to warp scramble them too.

Target / Total damage / Average damage / Hits / Misses / Hit %
Federation Praktor Hexeris / 118791 / 51.2 / 2161 / 159 / 93%
Federation Praktor Hexeris / 61843 / 49.1 / 1201 / 59 / 95%

http://games.chruker.dk/eve_online/item.php?type_id=25196

You'll be dampened unable to target past 5km which no one comes within. plus warp scrammed. What made this site the most difficult was the fact that you can't target for majority of the time.



I'm not suprised you lost your buzzard. You should have lost your ishtars on principle.

(a) its a 6yo fit that is terrible by todays standards.
(b) bouncers are the wrong drones for federation ships. Gardes / Wardens are situationally the right types.
(c) control range of 40km should never occur on a PVE ishtar, its got 2 utility slots. fit a link aug
(d) bouncers are the wrong drones for 40km control range fits. Gardes are better suited, because bouncers start to struggle with tracking, where as gardes have excellent tracking for 30-40km shooting.
(e) the drones should go right on and kill whatever ship you are shooting at when you lose lock to the damps, and then on aggressive they should go right on and start shooting a damp source. You can stop them if they are shooting a trigger, which you can see what they are shooting by either observing line of shot or mouse over-ing the drone interface window for each drone.
Sabotaged
Veritas Vincit
#26 - 2013-04-10 20:33:26 UTC
Quote:
I'm not suprised you lost your buzzard. You should have lost your ishtars on principle.


Wow. what hate. whats the problem?

anyway, that 6yo fit that is apparently terrible by todays standards is the only fit that could take the damage.

I can either tank it, or put a drone link and forget about the whole thing.


Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2013-04-10 22:00:04 UTC
once navy vexor is changed im going to have a crack at level 4s with that.
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