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log-off timer + remote assistance == suspect flag?
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March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2013-03-11 15:10:50 UTC
Just had nice discussion with GM about subj. Without any details this is intended behavior to prevent invulnerability of remote assistance.

Personally i think this is somehow strange: whatever PvP action have led to log-off timer it finished. No suspect flag, no aggro flag, no LE flag. Just log-off timer. Why remote assistance is "suspectable offence"?

Discuss?

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Gah'Matar
Phoenix Naval Operations
Phoenix Naval Systems
#2 - 2013-03-11 16:03:33 UTC
This is CCP's policy. Nerf everything so the carebears in highsec can play MineVille and MissionBottingOnline.
Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
#3 - 2013-03-11 16:29:53 UTC

Your saying, if you give Remote Assistance to a ship that logged off you get a suspect timer even if the ship has no flags?

The most obvious threat.... a person dc's inside an incursion and gets tackled/attacked by sleepers before it could ewarp... Repping them gives you a suspect timer? Seriously??

Hmmm... that's.... interesting...
March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2013-03-11 16:32:42 UTC
Gizznitt Malikite wrote:

Your saying, if you give Remote Assistance to a ship that logged off you get a suspect timer even if the ship has no flags?

nope. i speak about log-off timer (timer before safe-logoff after last PvP action).

Gizznitt Malikite wrote:

The most obvious threat.... a person dc's inside an incursion and gets tackled/attacked by sleepers before it could ewarp... Repping them gives you a suspect timer? Seriously??

Hmmm... that's.... interesting...

let me know how did it finish Twisted

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Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
#5 - 2013-03-11 19:59:00 UTC
March rabbit wrote:
Gizznitt Malikite wrote:

Your saying, if you give Remote Assistance to a ship that logged off you get a suspect timer even if the ship has no flags?

nope. i speak about log-off timer (timer before safe-logoff after last PvP action).




I thought the situation was a little more complicated:

Case 1: You rep a player A who has a PvP flag because player B attacked them, but Player A never shot back. You do NOT get a Suspect flag for repping player A.

Case 2: You rep a player A who attacked player B. Player B can legally shoot you prior to repping because he is at war with you, or because you have a limited engagement with him. You do NOT get a Suspect flag for repping player A.

Case 3: You rep a Player A who attacked Player B. Player B can NOT legally shoot you prior to repping... You WILL get a Suspect flag for repping player A.

In addition to whether or not you get a suspect flag FOR repping player A, you will also inherit all flags from Player A when you rep them, with the exception of a LE.



March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2013-03-11 20:40:33 UTC
sorry for lack of details. I thought question is clear.

There is details.
Player A is sitting with sniper ship, player B uses rSBs (remote sensor boosters) to make player A insta-locker.
Target appeared, player A makes a shot. Player A gets timers (log-off, LE, weapons timer), Player B gets log-off timer.
rSBs are deactivated (switchers are green).

After LE and weapon timers are gone, player B tries to use rSB on player A. And he cannot: he will get suspect flag for doing this.

So the question: for me it looks strange that player B cannot assist player A AFTER all actions are done. Player A has only log-off timer, he has not any LE or weapon timers, but he is somehow locked for assistance.

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