Jita Park Speakers Corner

"If you want to make enemies, try to change something."

No

It's a better idea than letting the community choose to send people to a summit that never say more than 5 sentences over three days or who ONLY speak when it's summit time and do **** all the rest of the year long term.

Uhh, unless I'm mistaken there is still a vote to decide who is ON the CSM, and the top 2 candidates still get to go to the summit regardless. So it seems your fears regarding "the players" voices being quashed are unsubstantiated.

Personally, it makes business sense to me, when you're flying 7 people halfway around the world to iceland for a summit, you should probably make sure they are the most knowledgeable or beneficial people regarding the upcoming topics. Otherwise you're missing out on valuable operational experience.

Also, it makes it so tagalongs don't get a free vacation.

Is the summit really a 'reward'? It's two days of jetlag and meetings. I don't think ccp will only choose to invite who they like, they'll pick who'll be the most useful for the topics under discussion

Hans would have been an auto-invite had the new system been in place last year.

Confirming that null sec does not impact high sec, and vice versa.

CCP has said their expansions will take a more holistic approach now, with themed changes to many areas of the game. Now, even more than before, they will be looking at having a wide range of opinions during the Summit meetings.

And even if they were focusing on only null sec, for example, it is in their best interests to have one person representing each area of space that would be affected by changes to moon goo and T2 production, for example.

10 hard-working people is still more than the 7 primary CSM members. As it stood before the change, the 7 were sent who had gained the most votes in an election over a half a year previously. Hardly representative of the work they had actually done on the CSM council--I'm familiar with some alternates who have done more work than primaries during their tenure.

In the new system, at least someone will be looking at contributions done during the year, even if it IS a company with a vested interest in how they're represented.

Is it perfect? No, no system is. One is governed by swayed and distant opinion of the masses, the other by the relationships of people who've worked together for months. Between the two, though, I think the newer system has more merit and will be the lesser of the two evils.

I'm fine with the rule and willing to bet that you're hilariously naive if you believe the second sentence. I'm sure CCP would be simply thrilled to know that some believe that transparent ass kissing would be enough. But, as you're hell bent on clinging to the "BUT THE VOICE OF THE PLAYERS DEMANDS SENDING SOMEONE USELESS!!!" notion, I'm not going to bother arguing the point.


The new is meant to better represent those who voted, and it should do that job well. Of course, it may lower voter turnout amongst unorganized, and the onus is ultimately on CCP to prevent that through voter education and turnout efforts. If null achieves something like 10 out of 14 seats, it will more likely be because non-null turnout was lower than anything else. Hopefully CCP would look at such a result as a failure on their part rather than proof that the system works (in a "well, 71% of votes went to null candidates so there are 10 of them, that's how it's supposed to work!" sort of way).


The STV vote is re-run, except with two slots instead of 14. This raises the threshold to get one of the top two slots from integer([(total votes cast)/15]+1) to integer([(total votes cast)/3]+1); in an election with 100k votes cast, that means it goes from 6667 votes to snag a seat to 33,334. Aside from that change, the election is re-run as normal. Due to the exceptionally high vote requirement, of course, the idea of "transfer" would tend to lose meaning... a candidate who appeared on ten thousand ballots as the first choice in the election to choose the CSM would transfer 3333 votes (3333/10000 votes each) to the second preference candidates on each of those ballots, but of course would keep them all for himself in the top-two election. As there are two seats, the goal here is basically to appear on as many ballots as possible in as high a ranking as possible.



The only way this will be a travesty is if the same effort is not also put into increasing voter turnout, which pretty much everyone told CCP should be a priority.