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Flying from one system to another without a warpgate?
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Diesel47
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#1 - 2013-03-09 10:04:06 UTC
So I've always thought EvE Systems were like rooms.

You go through doors (stargates) to reach another room. How "big" are these systems?

Would it be possible to fly to another system by just burning there?

Say somebody got a GM microwarpdrive that let them go ridiculously fast, and they started burning... Would they ever reach another eve system or would they just encounter some kind of problem along the way?

What would happen?
Elli M0o
Doomheim
#2 - 2013-03-09 10:08:01 UTC
you will be still burning inside the same system.

and why would gm's have such a mod anyway?
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#3 - 2013-03-09 10:15:20 UTC
Xearal
Dead's Prostitutes
The Initiative.
#4 - 2013-03-09 10:35:10 UTC
While you can theoreticly move so far out of a system that your distance to it's star is enough to make you reach another system, you will remain in the same solarsystem, as you said it's a 'room'. it just happens to be infinitely big as well.

There used to be some kind of bug that allowed you to warp deeper into the space in a solar system, causing people to have 'deep safes' hundreds of au away from the star, one of them I believe was even over 3000 au away, that's enough to reach another solarsystem in theory.. though as I said, they are infinitely sized rooms, so nope, same solar system.

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Lady Areola Fappington
#5 - 2013-03-09 10:45:38 UTC
Xearal wrote:
While you can theoreticly move so far out of a system that your distance to it's star is enough to make you reach another system, you will remain in the same solarsystem, as you said it's a 'room'. it just happens to be infinitely big as well.

There used to be some kind of bug that allowed you to warp deeper into the space in a solar system, causing people to have 'deep safes' hundreds of au away from the star, one of them I believe was even over 3000 au away, that's enough to reach another solarsystem in theory.. though as I said, they are infinitely sized rooms, so nope, same solar system.


IIRC, it was actually a punishment for being an obnoxious twit, back in the early days. The devs would move you so far out, it would take real time hours of warping to return to station. Only option was a self-destruct, really.

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Vera Algaert
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2013-03-09 10:46:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Vera Algaert
here's a model to illustrate the problem:

http://i.imgur.com/JVTVlsp.jpg

each of the planes is infinite in size - you can move in one plane forever without reaching another solar system

to move vertically between planes you need a session change (jumpdrive, gate jump, pod death, ...)

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Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
#7 - 2013-03-09 11:22:55 UTC
Yeah, think of systems as chatrooms: they are seperate rooms and you can't move in between them without a session change. The server needs to register that player X is jumping into system Y at coordinates Z. This way the physics engine only has to calculate collisions in between objects in that room... imagine all the calculations of 50K players all happening at once on the same computer!

Eve's rooms are just really really big compared to the cells you'd find in a typical video game. However, each system has X/Y/Z coordinates meaning that they can be displayed on a map, and that you can calculate distances between them for gameplay purposes (such as cynosural fields).
Robus Muvila
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#8 - 2013-03-09 11:36:37 UTC
If they didn't keep each system as an isolated entity they couldn't shift systems around onto stronger servers when something big is going on.
You'd get some sort of horrible space bandwidth vacumn that affected systems around it, whereas now they can just cordon off the system in question and put it on one of their "Oh christ the whole universe is fighting eachother" blades and set tidi to maximum while all the systems around it putter on like nothing is happening.

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Arronicus
State War Academy
Caldari State
#9 - 2013-03-09 12:53:39 UTC
Inxentas Ultramar wrote:
Yeah, think of systems as chatrooms:


So they are full of FBI agents posing as young girls, waiting to trick me and lock me away? I better quick eve before I get put in Jail!
Ion Kirst
KIRSTONE ALLIANCE
#10 - 2013-03-09 16:52:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Ion Kirst
Diesel47 wrote:
So I've always thought EvE Systems were like rooms.

You go through doors (stargates) to reach another room. How "big" are these systems?

Would it be possible to fly to another system by just burning there?

Say somebody got a GM microwarpdrive that let them go ridiculously fast, and they started burning... Would they ever reach another eve system or would they just encounter some kind of problem along the way?

What would happen?




If you could, you'd be an old man by the time you got there.

If another system is 15AU away, and 1AU is 93million miles, and you travel at 3000m/h (or km/h, really doesn't matter) . . .

. . .it will take you about 155 years to get there.

Sent us a text when you get there.

-Kirst

Always remember Tovil-Toba, and what was done there.