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High-Sec Ganking issue.

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Eram Fidard
Doomheim
#61 - 2013-03-09 12:00:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Eram Fidard



Seriously? You get thoroughly trashed for your completely insular, uninspired, "we'vehearditallbefore" whinefest...

Then when your crying isn't being acknowledged, you start being a youtube troll? You do realise those are lower than even 4chan trolls right?


1. Any part of the game will always be accessible to any player (stated clearly by CCP)

2. EVE is a pvp game.

3. You are playing EVE

4. Pretty sure even you can figure out this one.


edit: before you make any more suggestions, I suggest you get your pants out of your eyes, and have a look at this flowchart (it's easy to understand, I tried to make it that way)

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Arduemont
Rotten Legion
#62 - 2013-03-09 12:03:11 UTC
Holy ****!

I didn't think anyone this stupid existed.

Seriously wtf!

"In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." www.stateofwar.co.nf

Mag's
Azn Empire
#63 - 2013-03-09 12:13:29 UTC
Eram Fidard wrote:
edit: before you make any more suggestions, I suggest you get your pants out of your eyes, and have a look at this flowchart (it's easy to understand, I tried to make it that way)
Quality chart my friend, quality. Cool

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Shawnm339
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#64 - 2013-03-09 12:22:58 UTC
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=16711622

as bad as your day gets it never ever got this bad, hi sec is fine if you want safe go play something else simples
Mag's
Azn Empire
#65 - 2013-03-09 12:26:05 UTC
Shawnm339 wrote:
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=16711622

as bad as your day gets it never ever got this bad, hi sec is fine if you want safe go play something else simples
ShockedLolShocked

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.

Domina Trix
McKNOBBLER DRINKING CLAN
#66 - 2013-03-09 12:43:12 UTC
Kira Abarai wrote:
Hello All! I recently did some research on a corp mates High-Sec Hulk loss. After doing some digging I found that the corp that was responsible for the kill (xX-Crusader-Xx) which is part of the Hegemonous Pandorum Alliance. This Corp is using -10 security toons to come into High sec and gank your Barges and Indys. Hegemonous Pandorums CEO has this posted on His BIO which is public Information ............

Stationmonkey

www.shatteredcrystal.com/index.php/~175618

Because everyone wants plex!!

Want to talk to us? You can do that here.

hp.myevehost.com/index.php

So the CEO of a High-Sec Ganking Alliance Promotes and advertises for www.Shatteredcrystal.com.
CCP indorses this site, but at the same time they are abusing the system to killing off indys and other ships in EVE for people to make a NON-PVP living. From what I have read the outlined goal is to stop subscription paying players from being able to make money Via mining in High-Sec and force them to purchase ETC from Shatteredcrystal.com and convert it into PLEX which they intern sell to the market. CCP needs to make High-Sec "secure"

>xX-Crusader-Xx >Hegemonous Pandorum> Executor > Hegemoney> CEO and Founder >Citizen Vigilante CEO


You got ganked in high-sec, been there done that had it done to me. That is part of the game so suck it up, move on and remember this from EVE 101: "Don't fly anything you cannot afford to lose".

Two of the defining characteristics of a carebear are wanting other players to play the way the carebear wants and whining on the forums for the game to change when they don't. Yet I see more threads on these forums from gankers than I do miners whining about wanting the game changed to suit them.

Celeste Taylor
Ruby Dynasty
#67 - 2013-03-09 13:48:21 UTC
Kira Abarai wrote:
CCP indorses this site, but at the same time they are abusing the system to killing off indys and other ships in EVE for people to make a NON-PVP living.


I never realized that ganking was considered an exploit Shocked

Seriously though, ganking has been accepted as part of the game and high sec isn't completely safe. Just click on your map and highlight pods destroyed in the last 24 hours, or even hour. The number of ships destroyed in high sec is even more impressive, although some of those are from mission runners.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#68 - 2013-03-09 15:10:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Andski
I'm sure your "Mighty." alliance can muster up a Thrasher or two to pod stray -10s

otherwise you should disband and form the "Weak." alliance

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Velicitia
XS Tech
#69 - 2013-03-09 16:02:34 UTC
Eram Fidard wrote:


edit: before you make any more suggestions, I suggest you get your pants out of your eyes, and have a look at this flowchart (it's easy to understand, I tried to make it that way)


I support this product and/or service.

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#70 - 2013-03-09 16:05:15 UTC
Andski wrote:
I'm sure your "Mighty." alliance can muster up a Thrasher or two to pod stray -10s

otherwise you should disband and form the "Weak." alliance

Weak. sounds like a great name for a renter alliance.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

Velicitia
XS Tech
#71 - 2013-03-09 16:13:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Velicitia
Kira Abarai wrote:
CCP indorses [Shattered Crystal]


1. it's "endorse" not "indorse" Those squiggly red lines under words are important.

Shattered Crystal is an authorized GTC seller. Presumably, the link is the Corp/Alliance affiliate link so they get some RL iskies from the sale to help cover forum/website costs. Works exactly the same as any other site with an affiliate link, nothing wrong here.

People ganking your untanked mining barges ... well, it's nothing personal. Just business as usual.

Quote:
...they are abusing the system to killing off indys and other ships in EVE for people to make a NON-PVP living.


PvP = "Player vs. Player"

Player vs. Player interaction means that (at some level) something I do affects you (or vice versa).
Mining out an asteroid belt means that I can no longer mine that belt.
Ergo, Mining in EvE is PvP.
QED.

edit to refute "But you can wait til tomorrow and it's back!"

Yeah, I can do that ... OR I can liberally apply antimatter to your mining barge, and mine the belt out _today_.

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#72 - 2013-03-09 16:22:49 UTC
Velicitia wrote:
Quote:
...they are abusing the system to killing off indys and other ships in EVE for people to make a NON-PVP living.

PvP = "Player vs. Player"

Player vs. Player interaction means that (at some level) something I do affects you (or vice versa).
Mining out an asteroid belt means that I can no longer mine that belt.
Ergo, Mining in EvE is PvP.
QED.

edit to refute "But you can wait til tomorrow and it's back!"

Yeah, I can do that ... OR I can liberally apply antimatter to your mining barge, and mine the belt out _today_.

You can gank them tomorrow and eat the ore as well.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

Velicitia
XS Tech
#73 - 2013-03-09 16:29:04 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Velicitia wrote:
Quote:
...they are abusing the system to killing off indys and other ships in EVE for people to make a NON-PVP living.

PvP = "Player vs. Player"

Player vs. Player interaction means that (at some level) something I do affects you (or vice versa).
Mining out an asteroid belt means that I can no longer mine that belt.
Ergo, Mining in EvE is PvP.
QED.

edit to refute "But you can wait til tomorrow and it's back!"

Yeah, I can do that ... OR I can liberally apply antimatter to your mining barge, and mine the belt out _today_.

You can gank them tomorrow and eat the ore as well.


Best part is, they'll still be in untanked hulk, and whining on the forums about how it's "unfair".

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia

Zhade Lezte
#74 - 2013-03-09 18:26:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Zhade Lezte
Velicitia wrote:
Shattered Crystal is an authorized GTC seller. Presumably, the link is the Corp/Alliance affiliate link so they get some RL iskies from the sale to help cover forum/website costs. Works exactly the same as any other site with an affiliate link, nothing wrong here.


This is exactly it, and exactly why they are advertising. Goonswarm has an affiliate link to Shattered Crystal for members to help raise funds for our forums and voice chat servers, etc.

Shattered Crystal has nothing to do with the gank, and if you don't want to help those gankers while still buying GTC all you need to do is purchase those GTC from anywhere except through the exact referral link they provided.

Edit: Hahaha the so-called "endorsement" is from the link being in the CEO's bio. God I thought they were posting the referral links in local after ganks with the amount of huffing and puffing the OP was doing, yeah that is some corrupt and invasive advertising for sure Lol
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#75 - 2013-03-09 18:32:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Doc Fury
Eram Fidard wrote:



edit: before you make any more suggestions, I suggest you get your pants out of your eyes, and have a look at this flowchart (it's easy to understand, I tried to make it that way)


I'm nicking that chart for future use.

There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.

Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
#76 - 2013-03-09 18:45:43 UTC
Cannibal Kane wrote:
hmm...

More war targets.

This seems to be the only positive result of this thread Blink.

Remove standings and insurance.

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#77 - 2013-03-09 19:07:47 UTC
Zhade Lezte wrote:
Velicitia wrote:
Shattered Crystal is an authorized GTC seller. Presumably, the link is the Corp/Alliance affiliate link so they get some RL iskies from the sale to help cover forum/website costs. Works exactly the same as any other site with an affiliate link, nothing wrong here.


This is exactly it, and exactly why they are advertising. Goonswarm has an affiliate link to Shattered Crystal for members to help raise funds for our forums and voice chat servers, etc.

Shattered Crystal has nothing to do with the gank, and if you don't want to help those gankers while still buying GTC all you need to do is purchase those GTC from anywhere except through the exact referral link they provided.

Edit: Hahaha the so-called "endorsement" is from the link being in the CEO's bio. God I thought they were posting the referral links in local after ganks with the amount of huffing and puffing the OP was doing, yeah that is some corrupt and invasive advertising for sure Lol

He want LOOKING and found the ad, how invasive !!

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

Varius Xeral
Doomheim
#78 - 2013-03-09 20:28:31 UTC
Quality thread,

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