Ships & Modules

Someone suggested making Minny less agile but keeping their high speed and making blaster boats more agile (quicker) and buffing blaster tracking. I liked this.

TBH though this topic has been done to death a few posts below.

Things blaster needs to be changed so it works properly and without ship changes?

Massive tracking bonus on weapons: the shortest range weapon can't simply track properly in it's op range while having less issues in the fall off, you must admit this is kinda "stupid"

The shortest weapon system at BS size with 4km optimal range can't track an elephant under 1500M and the slightest lateral movement makes you loose a lot of the "EFT dps", another ridiculous point.

Imho the best thing to do about blasters is increase their optimal up to 13km at large size and 0km fall off, increase dmg modifier to make it spit nuclear warheads and that ******* weapon system should never have a single issue tracking in his full optimal from 0 to the 13km.

Ammo changes are needed, the single change about % kin or thermal for the same range/dmg type isn't enough, a third dmg type would be the most welcome even at a very small %.
T2 ammo needs serious revamp and get rid of the tracking penalty, hell you need a lot of training to use the worst ammo out there when faction one will overall be more effective, this is completely silly.

Fitting PG requirements lowered and cap use but maybe increase it significantly when overloaded if dmg modifier increased to nuclear warheads level.

Before touching the ships this would be a nice start, then go for the ships themselves and after that see if weapons still need something + or removal so they don't become tomorrow the omgfckingpowmobiles

I think the "can't choose your damage type" argument is overblown, just as it is with lazers. Both could be viewed as damage type=loads of DPS. One type of gun (blasters) pummels armor, the other pummels shields. I think that works fine and doesn't need to be tweaked in any way.

Range is the problem and it gets worse as you scale up. An argument could be made that blasters are working just fine on the frigates which are bonused for them. It's the cruiser hull and above where the train runs off the track. Simply change the range on blasters to be slightly less than the effective range of ACs and that should do it.

Rails OTOH simply need to do more DPS. I don't think it would be that big of a deal if they were nearly identical to Beams tbh.

I'd like to see Blaster range remain unchanged - it would be a mistake to change the attribute that makes blasters unique. They should, however, be compensated for it with much greater effective damage. A little bit less mass or more agility on their ships wouldn't hurt either, but they don't need much.

Blasters need better tracking with a boost to range also. I believe that the Gallente race is a race which can be kited easily [ship depending] so I also believe that the Gallente ships needs some form of speed/agility buff too.

Gallente have always been the 4th best race in applying DPS effectively, Im very happy this is about to change.

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please see a thread called gallente love in features and ideas discussion for hybrid boost discussion

No I don't think super soakers should be boosted. Just start selling them with different nozzles oh wai...

True this, and if you do find a significant hole it's going to be either EM or EXP...both of which can also easily be the highest. I'd take Kin/Therm over most of the other types any day. It does kind a suck when firing that at a t2 ship with kin/therm resist bonuses though....


As far as the tracking goes, I'm not sure AC's should be below blasters, really. They've always seemed like a quick and nimble weapon, whereas blasters are more like a shotgun or something. Though, it'd be nice to see them upgraded to a tactical shotgun over an old SxS, if you get me. Giving some extra agility to hybrid ships would be nice, though we'll have to bear in mind what that will change when you fit them with rails, yeah? You can't look at a ship and go "oh, that's for blasters" or "oh, that's for railguns", because people will want to use both. Try to force it and you end up with the Hyperion...

EM/Exp would be nice if you could get both of them at once...though it's true that minmatar and caldari can just change ammo. But while Kin/Therm never sees the huge em holes in shields or exp holes in armor, it never sees the huge em resists in armor or exp resists in shields, either. Perhaps it comes down to preference but I like that level of consistency.

I actually believe exactly the opposite.

To me Minnie are like rally cars, fast agile little killers that flitter around at kiting range.
Gallente should be top fuel dragsters. Fast in a straight line, but easily danced around.