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Jita + Goons = Griefing

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James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#21 - 2013-03-07 00:47:52 UTC
Tippia wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
If Goons (or anyone) are blocking access to Jita deliberately merely by having a bunch of characters in system, then yeah I'd call that an inappropriate use of the server.

Oh I don't know. A good old blockade of a trading port sounds like a hell of a lot more appropriate use of the server than what the regular Jita resident does with (and to) it… What?

Blockading with normal game mechanics is fine.
Blockading by taking advantage of server limitations is not.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Mara Tessidar
Perkone
Caldari State
#22 - 2013-03-07 00:48:18 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Mara Tessidar wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
If Goons (or anyone) are blocking access to Jita deliberately merely by having a bunch of characters in system, then yeah I'd call that an inappropriate use of the server.


your posting is an inappropriate use of the server

You don't see a problem with someone artificially forcing Jita to hit its population cap so that people can't get in?
This is of course assuming OP's story is true.


I can log in my character where I damn well please
Mara Tessidar
Perkone
Caldari State
#23 - 2013-03-07 00:48:58 UTC
you see, it's not who will let us

it's who will stop us
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#24 - 2013-03-07 00:50:41 UTC
Mara Tessidar wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Mara Tessidar wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
If Goons (or anyone) are blocking access to Jita deliberately merely by having a bunch of characters in system, then yeah I'd call that an inappropriate use of the server.


your posting is an inappropriate use of the server

You don't see a problem with someone artificially forcing Jita to hit its population cap so that people can't get in?
This is of course assuming OP's story is true.


I can log in my character where I damn well please

That's not the issue.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#25 - 2013-03-07 00:51:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Blockading with normal game mechanics is fine.
Blockading by taking advantage of server limitations is not.
…and yet, that's exactly what the regular Jita inhabitant does every Sunday.

And the response is the same: If people can't get in, they can go elsewhere or just use those fancy skills they've trained. vOv

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That's not the issue.
Jita being full isn't much of an issue to begin with.
Mara Tessidar
Perkone
Caldari State
#26 - 2013-03-07 00:51:41 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Mara Tessidar wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Mara Tessidar wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
If Goons (or anyone) are blocking access to Jita deliberately merely by having a bunch of characters in system, then yeah I'd call that an inappropriate use of the server.


your posting is an inappropriate use of the server

You don't see a problem with someone artificially forcing Jita to hit its population cap so that people can't get in?
This is of course assuming OP's story is true.


I can log in my character where I damn well please

That's not the issue.


The issue is people being logged in where you don't want them

good luck killing people in a station

also this quote pyramid is fantastic, a++ forum coding ccp
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#27 - 2013-03-07 00:52:46 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Tippia wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
If Goons (or anyone) are blocking access to Jita deliberately merely by having a bunch of characters in system, then yeah I'd call that an inappropriate use of the server.

Oh I don't know. A good old blockade of a trading port sounds like a hell of a lot more appropriate use of the server than what the regular Jita resident does with (and to) it… What?

Blockading with normal game mechanics is fine.
Blockading by taking advantage of server limitations is not.

If they were doing a blockade with real characters with real ships, undocked and hanging at the gates, such as a blockade actually would, sure. People then can attack the blockade & pod them using game mechanics.
Sitting in station with specially created alts just to hit Jita's server cap however.... I've got to agree thats an exploit done purely to harrass & grief people.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#28 - 2013-03-07 00:54:09 UTC
Mara Tessidar wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Mara Tessidar wrote:

I can log in my character where I damn well please

That's not the issue.

The issue is people being logged in where you don't want them

good luck killing people in a station

also this quote pyramid is fantastic, a++ forum coding ccp

Maybe it would help if all the alts were spamming recruitment ads for the CFC in Jita local?

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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#29 - 2013-03-07 00:55:15 UTC
The outcome of this latest goon stunt is going to be hilarious either way it finally goes down.




☼

There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.
Stegas Tyrano
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#30 - 2013-03-07 00:55:35 UTC
Mara Tessidar wrote:
goons goons goons


Fixed that for ya.

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James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#31 - 2013-03-07 00:56:09 UTC
Tippia wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Blockading with normal game mechanics is fine.
Blockading by taking advantage of server limitations is not.
…and yet, that's exactly what the regular Jita inhabitant does every Sunday.

And the response is the same: If people can't get in, they can go elsewhere or just use those fancy skills they've trained. vOv

Quote:
That's not the issue.
Jita being full isn't much of an issue to begin with.

What does that even mean? Do people regularly log in hundreds of alts in Jita so that other people can't get in?
Or are you saying several hundred individuals who all happen to be in Jita at the same time are equally responsible for causing the gates to be locked down as a mere handful of people who log in hundreds of alts for the express purpose of doing so?

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Mara Tessidar
Perkone
Caldari State
#32 - 2013-03-07 00:57:17 UTC
by the way I'm logged into jita and I see no evidence of any placeholder alts so I'm going to assume op is a pubbie altcorp member who should be commissared
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#33 - 2013-03-07 00:57:53 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Tippia wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Blockading with normal game mechanics is fine.
Blockading by taking advantage of server limitations is not.
…and yet, that's exactly what the regular Jita inhabitant does every Sunday.

And the response is the same: If people can't get in, they can go elsewhere or just use those fancy skills they've trained. vOv

Quote:
That's not the issue.
Jita being full isn't much of an issue to begin with.

What does that even mean? Do people regularly log in hundreds of alts in Jita so that other people can't get in?
Or are you saying several hundred individuals who all happen to be in Jita at the same time are equally responsible for causing the gates to be locked down as a mere handful of people who log in hundreds of alts for the express purpose of doing so?

Have you heard of the VCbees? These are like JitaStationbees

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#34 - 2013-03-07 00:58:23 UTC
Mara Tessidar wrote:
by the way I'm logged into jita and I see no evidence of any placeholder alts so I'm going to assume op is a pubbie altcorp member who should be commissared

One sec, let me log in to verify these claims...

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Stegas Tyrano
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#35 - 2013-03-07 00:58:24 UTC
Guys! I think they're doing something good!

If they grief Jita-goers enough it might encourage them to use the (miriad) other trade hubs dotted around New Eden.

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Mara Tessidar
Perkone
Caldari State
#36 - 2013-03-07 00:58:52 UTC
which is really unfortunate because all you peasants are getting your knickers in a twist already and frankly it's a cheap and enjoyable source of entertainment

this may explain much of why goons do what they do to you
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#37 - 2013-03-07 00:58:55 UTC
Nevyn Auscent wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Tippia wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
If Goons (or anyone) are blocking access to Jita deliberately merely by having a bunch of characters in system, then yeah I'd call that an inappropriate use of the server.

Oh I don't know. A good old blockade of a trading port sounds like a hell of a lot more appropriate use of the server than what the regular Jita resident does with (and to) it… What?

Blockading with normal game mechanics is fine.
Blockading by taking advantage of server limitations is not.

If they were doing a blockade with real characters with real ships, undocked and hanging at the gates, such as a blockade actually would, sure. People then can attack the blockade & pod them using game mechanics.
Sitting in station with specially created alts just to hit Jita's server cap however.... I've got to agree thats an exploit done purely to harrass & grief people.


We're helping CCP discover the absolute limit of Jita's capacity. We can't even do a good thing for the community with out people claiming we're just griefing. Shame on you.

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Destination SkillQueue
Doomheim
#38 - 2013-03-07 00:59:06 UTC
Logging in to the game is now griefing Straight

Just when I thought the complaints couldn't get anymore pathetic. GD surprises again by reaching another new low.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#39 - 2013-03-07 00:59:17 UTC
Mara Tessidar wrote:
by the way I'm logged into jita and I see no evidence of any placeholder alts so I'm going to assume op is a pubbie altcorp member who should be commissared

I'm assuming OP is trolling, but I'm arguing the hypothetical here.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#40 - 2013-03-07 01:00:26 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Tippia wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Blockading with normal game mechanics is fine.
Blockading by taking advantage of server limitations is not.
…and yet, that's exactly what the regular Jita inhabitant does every Sunday.

And the response is the same: If people can't get in, they can go elsewhere or just use those fancy skills they've trained. vOv

Quote:
That's not the issue.
Jita being full isn't much of an issue to begin with.

What does that even mean? Do people regularly log in hundreds of alts in Jita so that other people can't get in?
Or are you saying several hundred individuals who all happen to be in Jita at the same time are equally responsible for causing the gates to be locked down as a mere handful of people who log in hundreds of alts for the express purpose of doing so?


Reset RAZOR

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