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Should jumpgates in hisec be restricted by sec status?

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#21 - 2013-03-07 03:17:01 UTC
NEONOVUS wrote:
Andski wrote:
If players with negative security status can't get into hisec, why would pirate NPCs be able to?

They actually are all equipped with point to point jump drives.
Scram one some time and wait.
It will warp off no matter how much you scram it.

They probably have infinite warp core stab points, but you can activate the module on them, unlike a supercapital.

Their infinite points is greater than the infinite points from a bubble as well, or an infinipoint from a hictor.

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Irya Boone
The Scope
#22 - 2013-03-07 03:18:26 UTC
No just NO

But in the other hand ... i don't get HOW for BOB sake ennemi militia can get through system so easily ... maybe CCP should train
Navy , make them stop eating donuts during work hours ....

CCP it's time to remove Off Grid Boost and Put Them on Killmail too, add Logi on killmails .... Open that damn door !!

you shall all bow and pray BoB
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#23 - 2013-03-07 03:22:02 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
NEONOVUS wrote:
Andski wrote:
If players with negative security status can't get into hisec, why would pirate NPCs be able to?

They actually are all equipped with point to point jump drives.
Scram one some time and wait.
It will warp off no matter how much you scram it.

They probably have infinite warp core stab points, but you can activate the module on them, unlike a supercapital.

Their infinite points is greater than the infinite points from a bubble as well, or an infinipoint from a hictor.


Infinity plus one.
Caldari 5
D.I.L.L.I.G.A.F. S.A.S
Affirmative.
#24 - 2013-03-07 03:50:59 UTC
Beekeeper Bob wrote:
Too limiting to the sandbox.....

But I'm all for a inspection hold of a few seconds at a gate if the status is too low, and the system status being jumped into is too high.....Lol

Inspection Hold Time based on the Sec of the system that you are jumping into and your sec status? A bit like priority queuing :)

Something like?
10x(the Sec of the system) - (your Sec status) - 10

eg A -10 guy jumping into a 0.5 system
10*0.5 - -10 -10 = 5 second jump wait

maxing out at -10 guy jumping into a 1.0 system
10*1.0 - -10 -10 = 10 second jump wait

A -6 guy jumping into a 0.5 system
10*0.5 - -6 -10 = 1 Second Jump wait

maxing out at -6 guy jumping into a 1.0 system
10*1.0 - -6 -10 = 6 second jump wait
Alien Youth
The forsaken swarm
#25 - 2013-03-07 04:05:48 UTC
O god no... how am i going to fail at killing pods?
Sariah Kion
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#26 - 2013-03-07 04:43:59 UTC
Yes!

Actions have consequences.

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Lady Areola Fappington
#27 - 2013-03-07 05:06:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Lady Areola Fappington
Sariah Kion wrote:
Yes!

Actions have consequences.



Actions already have consequences. Poor sec status leads to facpo chasing us on undock, which prevents us from engaging in the gripping and exhilarating PVE CCP is so fond of. At blinkyred status, it also means we can be shot at by any passing guy who wishes to take a potshot.


Consequences have been had. Moving along....

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stoicfaux
#28 - 2013-03-07 05:19:19 UTC
Meh, makes sense from an RP perspective.

From a gameplay perspective, Eve is about consequences, but being effectively banned from high-sec might be a bit much.

Pon Farr Memorial: once every 7 years, all the carebears in high-sec must PvP or they will be temp-banned.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#29 - 2013-03-07 05:22:35 UTC
Sariah Kion wrote:
Yes!

Actions have consequences.


This just in:
Having faction police shoot at you everywhere and being KOS to every single player in highsec doesn't count as a consequence.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#30 - 2013-03-07 05:27:10 UTC
Mara Rinn wrote:


Losing the ability to travel just because you're -10 is insane: how will a pirate leave hisec after a suicide gank?


High sec is a tiny piece of the universe. You need never go through it to get from anywhere to anywhere. Secondly, it would have to be a spectacular gank to go from being allowed in high to -10 in one shot. I dare say the trip would be made via a new clone due to being podded by Concord.

Mr Epeen Cool
Destoya
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
#31 - 2013-03-07 05:30:18 UTC
How are they supposed to leave highsec if they cant use the gates?
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#32 - 2013-03-07 05:36:32 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Sariah Kion wrote:
Yes!

Actions have consequences.

This just in:
Having faction police shoot at you everywhere and being KOS to every single player in highsec doesn't count as a consequence.

It needs consequences that make people EVEN SAFER than they are currently.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
#33 - 2013-03-07 05:54:00 UTC
Pewty McPew wrote:
Why would Concord allow an outlaw into hisec at all? You want to come in, go kill a bunch of of stuff for us first to prove we can trust you.

Because Concord is not protecting you. It's not there to protect you. It never was.

Concord's only job is to ensure, that capsuleers loose their ships after failing to comply to Concord regulations.

Remove standings and insurance.
Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
#34 - 2013-03-07 05:59:35 UTC
NEONOVUS wrote:
Besides what is wrong with ratting?

Anywhere but Highsec? Nothing.

In Highsec? Evil outlaws and pirates fail to comply to Concord regulations. They should get concordokkened instantly.

Lol

Remove standings and insurance.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#35 - 2013-03-07 06:00:25 UTC
Mara Pahrdi wrote:
Pewty McPew wrote:
Why would Concord allow an outlaw into hisec at all? You want to come in, go kill a bunch of of stuff for us first to prove we can trust you.

Because Concord is not protecting you. It's not there to protect you. It never was.

Concord's only job is to ensure, that capsuleers loose their ships after failing to comply to Concord regulations.


Why do people say this?
Do people think the guarantee of ship loss for ganking has no protective effect whatsoever?

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#36 - 2013-03-07 06:06:30 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Do people think the guarantee of ship loss for ganking has no protective effect whatsoever?


You are misrepresenting the complaint.

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Swag Han Yolo
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#37 - 2013-03-07 06:06:34 UTC
As a space smuggler for the Hutt cartel I already find the empire to be a pain in my ass when traveling through systems. Whats in the cargo hold Han?? Blah blah blah. Luckily for me and Chewie always know where to hide the goods and by goods i mean human slave trade and misc. hallucinogens some of which i may haven taken right now. Now you want to make it so i can't make a living and have to sell my Millennium Falcon and downgrade to a x wing? No sir, NOT TODAY. I need those space gates to get anywhere and make sweet creds. Please don't do this.
Liafcipe9000
Critically Preposterous
#38 - 2013-03-07 06:56:11 UTC
posting in a stealth "NERF HIGHSEC" thread.
terzho
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#39 - 2013-03-07 06:57:52 UTC
Xen Solarus
Furious Destruction and Salvage
#40 - 2013-03-07 07:24:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Xen Solarus
Though i love the idea, mainly because of all the tears it would generate in the highsec ganking crowd (They'd have to go and actually do some real PvP, LMAO), i can't imagine something as drastic as this would ever happen.

I think the better idea is the Concord Insta-Death-Ray. Cool

Post with your main, like a BOSS!

And no, i don't live in highsec.  As if that would make your opinion any less wrong.