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Why not to have T3 battlecruisers

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Alice Saki
Nocturnal Romance
Cynosural Field Theory.
#21 - 2013-03-06 16:01:01 UTC
Are you all idiots?

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Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#22 - 2013-03-06 16:06:16 UTC
Do you really want me and my buddies rolling around highsec in 250k EHP, 1200 DPS, battlecruiser hull with ewar bonuses?

If you're a highsec carebear you definitely do not want that to happen.
Varesk
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#23 - 2013-03-06 16:12:46 UTC
there are no tier 3 battlecruisers anymore.

you have

attack
and
skirmish.

and

cruisers

and

strategic cruisers.
stoicfaux
#24 - 2013-03-06 16:15:05 UTC
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
Do you really want me and my buddies rolling around highsec in 250k EHP, 1200 DPS, battlecruiser hull with ewar bonuses?

If you're a highsec carebear you definitely do not want that to happen.

*cough*CONCORD T3*cough*

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NEONOVUS
Mindstar Technology
Goonswarm Federation
#25 - 2013-03-06 17:06:13 UTC
Personally I think the current t3 bcs are good enough.
But yeah tech 3 BS are definitely needed.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#26 - 2013-03-06 22:57:40 UTC
Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:
Current T3 cruisers are fine

Yep, nothing at all wrong with a cruiser that has the firepower and tank of a battleships with the speed and manovering of a destroyer. Or a ship that can both warp cloaked AND be invulnerable to bubbles. Nothing at all wrong with that!
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#27 - 2013-03-06 23:03:00 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:
Current T3 cruisers are fine

Yep, nothing at all wrong with a cruiser that has the firepower and tank of a battleships with the speed and manovering of a destroyer. Or a ship that can both warp cloaked AND be invulnerable to bubbles. Nothing at all wrong with that!

As much as I hate to admit it, the subsystems really should only allow warping cloaked OR invulnerable to bubbles... never both at the same time.

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Sarah Schneider
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#28 - 2013-03-06 23:18:31 UTC
T3 cruisers are already in some aspects comparable to a T1 Battleship, the most obvious one would be their tanking capabilities and firepower on some variants.
I can't imagine how CCP can come up with a way to balance T3 Battleships.

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NEONOVUS
Mindstar Technology
Goonswarm Federation
#29 - 2013-03-06 23:21:48 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:
Current T3 cruisers are fine

Yep, nothing at all wrong with a cruiser that has the firepower and tank of a battleships with the speed and manovering of a destroyer. Or a ship that can both warp cloaked AND be invulnerable to bubbles. Nothing at all wrong with that!

As much as I hate to admit it, the subsystems really should only allow warping cloaked OR invulnerable to bubbles... never both at the same time.

Out of curiosity why?
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#30 - 2013-03-07 00:17:50 UTC  |  Edited by: James Amril-Kesh
baltec1 wrote:
The cruisers are disgustingly overpowered. The idea of the tech 3 BC or BS horrifies me.

They're not really overpowered, especially not compared to their cost.
If they were overpowered they'd be used a LOT more often in PVP, but cost balances that out.

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Alphea Abbra
Project Promethion
#31 - 2013-03-07 00:32:55 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
The cruisers are disgustingly overpowered. The idea of the tech 3 BC or BS horrifies me.

They're not really overpowered, especially not compared to their cost.
If they were overpowered they'd be used a LOT more often in PVP, but cost balances that out.

I think we need tech 3 titans. They're going to be exponentially better than regular titans, but the cost and skillpoints requirements will surely balance it out.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#32 - 2013-03-07 02:40:11 UTC
Alphea Abbra wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
The cruisers are disgustingly overpowered. The idea of the tech 3 BC or BS horrifies me.

They're not really overpowered, especially not compared to their cost.
If they were overpowered they'd be used a LOT more often in PVP, but cost balances that out.

I think we need tech 3 titans. They're going to be exponentially better than regular titans, but the cost and skillpoints requirements will surely balance it out.

Cost is A balancing factor. I never said it was THE balancing factor.
Tech 3 ships are good, but they're not SO good that they're used so much as to exclude other ship types. They don't really obsolete other ships, either (except for command ships, but that's getting fixed).

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Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#33 - 2013-03-07 03:19:09 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
The cruisers are disgustingly overpowered. The idea of the tech 3 BC or BS horrifies me.


Sub cap group able to alpha a titan?
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#34 - 2013-03-07 03:21:36 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Alphea Abbra wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
The cruisers are disgustingly overpowered. The idea of the tech 3 BC or BS horrifies me.

They're not really overpowered, especially not compared to their cost.
If they were overpowered they'd be used a LOT more often in PVP, but cost balances that out.

I think we need tech 3 titans. They're going to be exponentially better than regular titans, but the cost and skillpoints requirements will surely balance it out.

Cost is A balancing factor. I never said it was THE balancing factor.
Tech 3 ships are good, but they're not SO good that they're used so much as to exclude other ship types. They don't really obsolete other ships, either (except for command ships, but that's getting fixed).

Mmm, training Amarr Titan V just for this.

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#35 - 2013-03-07 03:22:12 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
The cruisers are disgustingly overpowered. The idea of the tech 3 BC or BS horrifies me.

They're not really overpowered, especially not compared to their cost.
If they were overpowered they'd be used a LOT more often in PVP, but cost balances that out.

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Calathorn Virpio
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#36 - 2013-03-07 03:30:44 UTC
Abrazzar wrote:
Look at what a T3 cruiser can do compared to a T1 cruiser. Now scale that up equally with battleships. Horrifying.



we get T3 Titans and i quitRoll

BRING BACK THE JUKEBOX

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Mina Sebiestar
Minmatar Inner Space Conglomerate
#37 - 2013-03-07 03:47:55 UTC
T3 as Capital killers OR mobile area shield OR heavy on grid booster OR Cyno/Jump gate blocker OR mass e-war area effect tracking disrupt / sensor damp / resistance reducer etc with no dps beside some drone bay..i can go with that

But outright better in any way than any other bs in any situation(like current T3 over cruisers and up )..no thanks

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James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#38 - 2013-03-07 03:49:53 UTC
Frostys Virpio wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
The cruisers are disgustingly overpowered. The idea of the tech 3 BC or BS horrifies me.


Sub cap group able to alpha a titan?

Just get about 25 titans and you'll be able to alpha one titan.
And then wait ten minutes before you can alpha another one.
Also this only works in nullsec.

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#39 - 2013-03-07 04:35:47 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Frostys Virpio wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
The cruisers are disgustingly overpowered. The idea of the tech 3 BC or BS horrifies me.


Sub cap group able to alpha a titan?

Just get about 25 titans and you'll be able to alpha one titan.
And then wait ten minutes before you can alpha another one.
Also this only works in nullsec.

25 titans, interesting.

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Calathorn Virpio
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#40 - 2013-03-07 04:37:16 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Frostys Virpio wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
The cruisers are disgustingly overpowered. The idea of the tech 3 BC or BS horrifies me.


Sub cap group able to alpha a titan?

Just get about 25 titans and you'll be able to alpha one titan.
And then wait ten minutes before you can alpha another one.
Also this only works in nullsec.

25 titans, interesting.



insta blap compared to quick blapage

BRING BACK THE JUKEBOX

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