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Has Heth lost it?

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Gwen Ikiryo
Alexylva Paradox
#21 - 2013-03-07 03:30:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Gwen Ikiryo
Lady Katherine Devonshire wrote:
I concur. Running a working feudal society is not something one can learn overnight, and neither the Caldari people nor their culture are very compatible with it. It may seem a paradox, but it disturbs me to see him trying to make his nation into a, if you can forgive my saying, a cheap imitation of our own Great Empire.

We temper our autocracy with Faith, and that is what keeps our ruling houses in check. Humility before God is what keeps our leaders from mistaking themselves for Gods themselves. Without that tempering influence in one's heart... well, one needs only look at Heth himself to see what happens when a leader believes themselves to have no greater power above them.

Since the Caldari tend to eschew religion then it would be best advised that they don't attempt to deify their leaders, or worse - to let them deify themselves. It is a realm that they lack experience in. Perhaps in another thousand years of Amarrian missionaries... but no, now is not the time for a Caldari monarch. Nor anytime soon for that matter.

I much prefer the Caldari to remain different than us for as long as possible, otherwise there will be nothing left for us to learn from them.

More to the point, however, I do not see how he can believe that the direction he is pushing the Caldari State in - namely, pointless war - can possibly be good for his people. What could he possibly stand to gain from it? More money? More authority? He already has plenty of both. That he seems ill-content to sit back and enjoy either is... troubling. There may well indeed be some sort of mental illness at work here; acute paranoia seems to be at the top of the list of suspects, with megalomania not far behind.

In the meantime... perhaps the Empire can find some openings for a large number of former Caldari executives who are now looking for new employers (and to escape Heth's wrath)? Such knowledgeable persons in the realm of business would be a most welcome asset... at least until it is safe for them to return home.


You... Perhaps took my point a bit further then I had in mind, Lady Devonshire - I was mostly using the comparison to feudal society to illustrate the Executors fairly staggering descent into outright tyranny as he attempts to project his own personal feelings into State society at large. I wouldn't say that he's aiming to literally imitate the Empire. In fact, I'd imagine he believes himself to be acting in an incredibly Caldari fashion.

I certainly agree with your point about faith "tempering" someone in a position of absolute power, though I'm not certain that's the problem here. Heth has shown himself to be a man with some very firm values and beliefs, to the point that you could equate them to filling roughly the same role as a "God". It does not, atleast to me, appear that he has abandoned those to satisfy his own ego; Rather, rampant paranoia has twisted and morphed them into something that appears quite different to everyone save himself.

Something that, in fact, many men of faith often fall prey to. How many acts of madness have been done in the name of a god, after all?

By the way, I'm going to assume you were referring to the ethnic Caldari alone when you claimed that they "eschew religion", as a woman of faith myself.
Svetlana Scarlet
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
#22 - 2013-03-07 06:13:20 UTC
Malcolm Khross wrote:
I suggest to you that they aren't just sitting idly by, but like anything worth seeing, you're going to have to look beyond the surface.


I have been waiting for five years for them to find their collective backbone -- how much longer must I wait before they will do what must be done? How many more of our Caldari brothers and sisters must die to preserve an illegal regime that is dragging our State to its doom? Perhaps you have lost your empathy for those not lucky enough to benefit from capsuleer technology, but I have not. It is time for someone to put Tibus Heth in the gibbet and show others who would follow in his wake what happens to would-be tyrants and warmongers who put their own aggrandizement over the good of the State. He is not worthy of the Tea Ceremony or an honorable death of any sort -- he is a plague that must be eliminated, one which has not only poisoned our government but our way of thinking. Subtlety does us no favors now.
Nomistrav
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#23 - 2013-03-07 07:00:54 UTC
Simon Louvaki wrote:
Nomistrav wrote:

Tibus Heth and the whole of the Caldari have shown that there simply is no other alternative than absolute absorption into the Gallente Federation, unfortunately. What once was will become again.


Ah, so liberties answer is the forceful subjugation of an entire people based on the musing of a madman? Our nations were getting along relatively fine before the rise of Heth, and if you wish to toss off the impression that the Gallente are the *bane of our problems then you might want to cease such talk.

Nomistrav wrote:

..all the historical grievances...


I believe historical grievances go both ways and remains to be one of the finer points behind Heth's propaganda machine. For all the wrong we've done to each other it might be best to think forward and about how we can mend those wounds, not re-open them.


Very well. I'll recant my less than quaint, if harsh nature and apologize forth-with as it was based solely on my own anger of the warmongering tart. Perhaps being facetious with underlying sarcasm wasn't the best choice as it seems to have only riled up even more antiquation.

Nevertheless, there is no way forward in my eyes and I can't be so easily convinced of otherwise. Tibus Heth falls, another Caldari loyalist takes his place and the war continues on and on forever more. For that matter, why should the Federation kneel before the Caldari? Why should we submit to these 'peace-talks' when this 'executor' continues to find ways to stifle what little calm there is between the open warfare?

In the same sense, why should the Caldari even care to give in to peace? They were so quick to grab at State Protectorate seized territory, throwing their money here and there for 'development rights' of our homes.

A Matari man once told me, "An outstretched hand may slither into a tight crevice, but a balled fist grasping at treats will not be freed of it." One day, we're simply going to have to let go of what we're grasping for.. This war we keep fighting - and for what? What are we trying to accomplish? Our minds are too different and the proximity breeds the violence.

I digress. Tibus Heth is a madman and his reign must be quashed, with or without the co-operation of Caldari and her peoples..

"As long as space endures,

as long as sentient beings exist,

until then, may I too remain

and dispel the miseries of the world."

~ Vremaja Idama

Simon Louvaki
Khaldari InnoTektoniks and Analytical Solutions
#24 - 2013-03-07 07:15:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Simon Louvaki
Nomistrav wrote:

Nevertheless, there is no way forward in my eyes and I can't be so easily convinced of otherwise. Tibus Heth falls, another Caldari loyalist takes his place and the war continues on and on forever more. For that matter, why should the Federation kneel before the Caldari? Why should we submit to these 'peace-talks' when this 'executor' continues to find ways to stifle what little calm there is between the open warfare?


Tibus Heth and the 'Executorship' is an outlier with no historical precedence in the entirety of the Caldari States existence. There is no reason to believe that once removed that another 'loyalist' will simply pick up where he left off. The Corporate Board of Directors, the CEP and the shareholders all remain apart of the Caldari State, and once Heth is gone things can very much be expected to return to business as normal. Heth is the lynch pin of this war and without him profits takes precedence. So far it hasn't exactly been profitable. The one thing that must remain a constant however is Caldari Prime in Caldari hands.

Nomistrav wrote:

In the same sense, why should the Caldari even care to give in to peace? They were so quick to grab at State Protectorate seized territory, throwing their money here and there for 'development rights' of our homes.


That isn't exactly an accurate statement. Tibus Heth announced a blind auction for territory that was seized and 'annexed' (unlawfully) by the CPD. Our's is a corporate society driven on competition. Surely you don't believe that if the situation had been reversed and President Roden announced a land grab to corporate interests in Caldari territory that corporate interests in the Federation wouldn't jump at the chance to get ahead. The war was spurred on by ideology, and thats beginning to show some cracks.

Nomistrav wrote:

A Matari man once told me, "An outstretched hand may slither into a tight crevice, but a balled fist grasping at treats will not be freed of it." One day, we're simply going to have to let go of what we're grasping for.. This war we keep fighting - and for what? What are we trying to accomplish? Our minds are too different and the proximity breeds the violence.


We (as in the Caldari) have a clear goal. The security and retention of our Homeworld. The Federation however I have often wondered to myself about their goals. I understand and respect defense, but what else?

Nomistrav wrote:

I digress. Tibus Heth is a madman and his reign must be quashed, with or without the co-operation of Caldari and her peoples..


Tibus Heth will be quashed, but you would be wise to reconsider about it being at the hands of the Federation.

-- "The weak of mind are quick to judge with slightest tempt; Thus fools go forth to spread false word." - The Scriptures, Book of Trials 2:13 - 2:21

--"At the narrow passage, there is no brother and no friend." - Hyasyoda Proverb

Nomistrav
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2013-03-07 07:39:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Nomistrav
Simon Louvaki wrote:
Nomistrav wrote:

A Matari man once told me, "An outstretched hand may slither into a tight crevice, but a balled fist grasping at treats will not be freed of it." One day, we're simply going to have to let go of what we're grasping for.. This war we keep fighting - and for what? What are we trying to accomplish? Our minds are too different and the proximity breeds the violence.


We (as in the Caldari) have a clear goal. The security and retention of our Homeworld. The Federation however I have often wondered to myself about their goals. I understand and respect defense, but what else?


And I'm just supposed to forget that Intaki Prime is still up for grabs by the Caldari in our permanent war? Why should I - allow me to re-iterate as I'm spitting mad, now - why should any Intaki care about the Caldari and her homeworld when ours is constantly under threat of war? If our own homeworld cannot be left alone, how can you honestly expect that the Federation should just forfeit yours?

I apologize for the outburst as I realize that the argument works both ways... Regardless, Intaki is still in the warzone and the Intaki Assembly would never stand a chance against the Caldari profiteers, the fact that we ever aligned with the Federation is most (in my opinion) of what dragged us into this mess in the first place.

"As long as space endures,

as long as sentient beings exist,

until then, may I too remain

and dispel the miseries of the world."

~ Vremaja Idama

Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#26 - 2013-03-07 09:27:51 UTC
To be fair, I'd be just as happy if the Intaki system were not part of the warzone - but Concord decided otherwise. As such it is either a bastion for the FDU or the State Protectorate.

Given those two choices, you can hardly blame the State Protectorate for prosecuting legal war targets in a system that is an official part of CEWPA theater of war. Nor can you claim that what the STPRO does is any different from the actions of the FDU - simply because you happen to hold the belief that Intaki belongs in the Federation. Many Intaki do not.

So don't rail at the Caldari - rail at Concord. Get Intaki removed from the CEWPA legislation and then nobody will fight over it anymore.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.

Nomistrav
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2013-03-07 10:17:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Nomistrav
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
To be fair, I'd be just as happy if the Intaki system were not part of the warzone - but Concord decided otherwise. As such it is either a bastion for the FDU or the State Protectorate.

Given those two choices, you can hardly blame the State Protectorate for prosecuting legal war targets in a system that is an official part of CEWPA theater of war. Nor can you claim that what the STPRO does is any different from the actions of the FDU - simply because you happen to hold the belief that Intaki belongs in the Federation. Many Intaki do not.

So don't rail at the Caldari - rail at Concord. Get Intaki removed from the CEWPA legislation and then nobody will fight over it anymore.


Quite the contrary, I do not believe Intaki belongs in the Federation - I merely mean as it is, we are tied in this war. It belongs to the Intaki, and only the Intaki. I apologize if what I am trying to convey is misunderstood, I do admit that I have issues in explaining my opinions directly.

Addendum: I'm curious as to how many would support the ideal that Intaki should be removed from the CEWPA legislation... Then again, I am even more curious as to how many would support the ideal that Luminaire be added...

"As long as space endures,

as long as sentient beings exist,

until then, may I too remain

and dispel the miseries of the world."

~ Vremaja Idama

Simon Coal
Comstock Daze
#28 - 2013-03-07 12:36:41 UTC
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
Nor can you claim that what the STPRO does is any different from the actions of the FDU - simply because you happen to hold the belief that Intaki belongs in the Federation. Many Intaki do not.


Some Intaki do not. They don't count for beans, for the obvious reason that their voice is not the voice of the people and the people's government. It's the same reason you don't just suck up the loss of Caldari Prime because some Caldari didn't want to secede.
Malcolm Khross
Doomheim
#29 - 2013-03-07 12:37:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Malcolm Khross
Svetlana Scarlet wrote:

I have been waiting for five years for them to find their collective backbone -- how much longer must I wait before they will do what must be done? How many more of our Caldari brothers and sisters must die to preserve an illegal regime that is dragging our State to its doom?


Questions I cannot answer, nor will I strive to do so. I would state, however, that I do not disagree with you on principle. I should state that I hold your dedication and conviction in high regard and my statements and questions to you are not borne of malice or disagreement.

Svetlana Scarlet wrote:
Perhaps you have lost your empathy for those not lucky enough to benefit from capsuleer technology, but I have not.


You do me a great dishonor with this accusation and I would urge you to pay closer attention to my service record and history, which would both strongly testify otherwise. I have done, and will continue to do, a great deal for non-capsuleers.

Svetlana Scarlet wrote:
It is time for someone to put Tibus Heth in the gibbet and show others who would follow in his wake what happens to would-be tyrants and warmongers who put their own aggrandizement over the good of the State.


A mountain topples most easily when it is chiseled away at its foundation patiently. When the time comes for the mountain to fall, its fall can be guided by the direction of the chiseling, its toppling controlled to a single instance. If the mountain is instead shattered by excessive force, remnants of that mountain are tossed about and scattered around, its fall is uncontrolled and its toppling is chaotic. Which of these do you believe to be most in-line with the Caldari spirit?

~Malcolm Khross

Malcolm Khross
Doomheim
#30 - 2013-03-07 12:40:21 UTC
Nomistrav wrote:

Addendum: I'm curious as to how many would support the ideal that Intaki should be removed from the CEWPA legislation... Then again, I am even more curious as to how many would support the ideal that Luminaire be added...


It would behoove you to contact the Intaki Liberation Front and the Intaki Prosperity Initiative.

~Malcolm Khross

Knoot Enderas
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#31 - 2013-03-07 13:54:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Knoot Enderas
Katran Luftschreck wrote:
In a recent news article it appears that about 3% of the Caldari upper management have resigned in protest to his actions. Surprised it was only 3%... but anyway...

But then he follows it up with this:

“It seems virtually impossible these were not coordinated attempts to weaken the State. The CPD is already hard at work collecting data on the individuals involved in this so-called protest. There will be significant investigations into all their activities. If a hint of foreign or criminal influence is found, we will not hesitate to act and make examples of those who were involved. Considering the increasingly belligerent language from the Federation recently, I would not be surprised to find it’s the work of Federal black ops.”

He isn't serious, is he? He can't actually believe that the source of all this outrage is anything other than himself? And if he really is that crazy, what can actually be done about it? Is there legal recourse or will it really come down to armed revolt?

Before anyone says it: Why am I bringing this up when I'm not Caldari? Because this is the first I've heard of this news piece. I'd rather see some actual Caldari opinions on this to be honest.



Important: these observations are off-duty musings of Knoot Enderas. Advenus Classem and the Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris do not comment on internal state affairs.

It is entirely plausible that Federal black ops are behind the resignations and the incident involving Kaalakiota Corporation factory workers. Kaalakiota and Home Guard executives were responsible for the massacre of workers who wanted to ask Tibus Heth's administration to implement promised reforms more firmly, and now they've resigned.

The Executor remains popular with working Caldari Citizens, and there is absolutely no reason for him to turn launchers on his own people. Mentas Blaque, on the other hand, has the character, the motive and the means to pull something like that off. Corrupt executives opposed to the CPD on the other hand have every reason to want to stop the voice of workers from being heard by their Executor.

If there is collusion between corrupt mid-level executives and foreign elements, I'm sure that an investigation by the CPD will bring it to light. Only magpies and ostriches will mindlessly blame Heth, because it's the only name they know. Federal propagandists and rootless cosmopolitan capsuleers will happily join that chorus, it seems.
Malcolm Khross
Doomheim
#32 - 2013-03-07 14:21:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Malcolm Khross
Knoot Enderas wrote:

It is entirely plausible that Federal black ops are behind the resignations and the incident involving Kaalakiota Corporation factory workers.


Possible, not probable.

Knoot Enderas wrote:
The Executor remains popular with working Caldari Citizens, and there is absolutely no reason for him to turn launchers on his own people.


The presence of multiple protests doesn't suggest to you that Heth's "popularity" is somewhat suspect at this time?

~Malcolm Khross

Knoot Enderas
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#33 - 2013-03-07 14:42:22 UTC
Important: these observations are off-duty musings of Knoot Enderas. Advenus Classem and the Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris do not comment on internal state affairs.

Malcolm Khross wrote:
Knoot Enderas wrote:

It is entirely plausible that Federal black ops are behind the resignations and the incident involving Kaalakiota Corporation factory workers.


Possible, not probable.


Still far more probable than the alternative hypothesis, that the Executor is behind them. An investigation on the influence of criminal or foreign elements is ungoing. I look forward to the outcome.

Quote:
The presence of multiple protests doesn't suggest to you that Heth's "popularity" is somewhat suspect at this time?


No. Let's look at these, shall we?

  • A CEO worries that security operations by Caldari Navy may negatively impacting their corporations' developmental plans and calls on "the honored Executor Heth" to reign them in as per corporate law.
  • A protest organised and led by Ishukone-loyal capsuleers involving perhaps a few hundred non-capsuleers is shut down.
  • Factory workers who do not oppose the executor ("We know he's a busy man, so he probably doesn't even know what's going on. We've tried to tell him, but our voices have been stymied by middle management who doesn't want things to change.”) launch a protest against middle managers.
  • Megacorporations investigate their legal rights to compensation under the State legal code, following an appropriation that probably happened within the bounds of corporate law.
  • A legal tool is used by the CPD to shut down legal proceedings between the Intara family and the Kaalakiota Corporation. The family is unhappy about this

None of this suggests that the Executor has lost his popularity with the ordinary people, as opposed to the whimsical support of rootless cosmopolitan capsuleers and high-level corporate executives who profited most when he united the State, reconquered our home world and struck blow after blow against the Federation.
Malcolm Khross
Doomheim
#34 - 2013-03-07 14:49:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Malcolm Khross
Knoot Enderas wrote:

None of this suggests that the Executor has lost his popularity with the ordinary people, as opposed to the whimsical support of rootless cosmopolitan capsuleers and high-level corporate executives who profited most when he united the State, reconquered our home world and struck blow after blow against the Federation.


Right then. I suppose you're reading what's presented and I'm reading what's written.

I suppose I should make it more plain. The State is not governed by the "popular will" of the people, the State is not a Democracy, the Federation is. The executives of the Megacorporations make up the CEP, these executives lead in the interests of the Caldari people and have since the founding the State, a system which served the Caldari people well and was usurped when the Executor rose to power.

It should also be noted that executives that do not lead in the best interests of those under their charge have a history of being replaced as necessary and suffering the worst fate imaginable to Caldari.

If the executives of these corporations are taking repetitive issue with the actions of the CPD and the Executor as our traditions, way of life, history and law are disregarded or compromised, it is expected and understood that these executives continue to serve in the best interests of those under their charge. If they were not, they would have been replaced already.

There is more nuance to these situations than what is presented in the public news and any citizen of the State, as well as any capsuleer under the State, should familiarize themselves with these nuances.

~Malcolm Khross

Knoot Enderas
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#35 - 2013-03-07 14:57:52 UTC
Either that, or I'm able to look beyond the confines of my well-furnished pod. The recent events in the Caldari state are an example of unrest among a small, ultra-rich elite which feels that some of its privileges may be threatened. It is not a popular revolt against the Executor.
Malcolm Khross
Doomheim
#36 - 2013-03-07 15:03:32 UTC
Knoot Enderas wrote:
Either that, or I'm able to look beyond the confines of my well-furnished pod. The recent events in the Caldari state are an example of unrest among a small, ultra-rich elite which feels that some of its privileges may be threatened. It is not a popular revolt against the Executor.


You are correct, at least in part, this is not the Caldari way.

~Malcolm Khross

Knoot Enderas
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#37 - 2013-03-07 15:13:44 UTC
Khross-haan,

I agree entirely that the "armed uprising" suggested by Ms. Luftschreck and other capsuleers is not the Caldari way. The Amarr Empire has the divine right, the Gallente have mob rule and the state has Corporate Law. Differences of opinion and differing interests involving the megacorps and the CPD must be resolved by and within the confines of the law.

For this reason, I find the anti-Provist "rebelliousness" that is put on display by some capsuleers extremely irritating. We are Caldari! We do not write petitions or wave banners when we want to get something done. We sue the other party in a court of corporate law!

As a humble exchange pilot in the service of the Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris, it is not for me to say how these issues should be resolved, nor is it the business of other Caldari capsuleers.
BloodBird
The Crucible.
#38 - 2013-03-07 15:14:37 UTC
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
To be honest, the Executor's opinions on the Federation would hold less water if the Federation wasn't attacking us, wasn't underminding us and if her politicians weren't dedicated to selling the idea that our destruction is somehow necessary for Gallente safety.

As for opinions on the latest... Propaganda is hardly limited to the Executor's office. It flows from every political office in every faction. The resignations are significant, but not widespread or persistent to cause serious problems. By next week they will be forgotten.


Da'wwwww, look at him, towing the party-line like a good little boy. Ain't he cute? He's so cute! :3

I would like to remind you that the Fact the Federation is attacking you is your own damn fault and how you should keep in mind your part in this whole mess, but I suspect you know this already and, as stated, are simply saying what won't get you smacked over the back of your head by your fellow provist thugs. Freedom of Speech - you just have to love being reminded of how great it is, when you see clear examples of people who don't have it.

But please, keep being great at towing the State's party-line. It's very amusing, in spite of everything.
Rhiannon Dellacorte
Liberty Vanguard
#39 - 2013-03-07 15:19:06 UTC
BloodBird wrote:
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
To be honest, the Executor's opinions on the Federation would hold less water if the Federation wasn't attacking us, wasn't underminding us and if her politicians weren't dedicated to selling the idea that our destruction is somehow necessary for Gallente safety.

As for opinions on the latest... Propaganda is hardly limited to the Executor's office. It flows from every political office in every faction. The resignations are significant, but not widespread or persistent to cause serious problems. By next week they will be forgotten.


Da'wwwww, look at him, towing the party-line like a good little boy. Ain't he cute? He's so cute! :3

I would like to remind you that the Fact the Federation is attacking you is your own damn fault and how you should keep in mind your part in this whole mess, but I suspect you know this already and, as stated, are simply saying what won't get you smacked over the back of your head by your fellow provist thugs. Freedom of Speech - you just have to love being reminded of how great it is, when you see clear examples of people who don't have it.

But please, keep being great at towing the State's party-line. It's very amusing, in spite of everything.


When a person starts using ordinary words as proper nouns, they should no longer be taken seriously. This is why nobody takes Valerie Valate seriously and now its why nobody takes you seriously.

Rules of Acquisition #261

A wealthy man can afford anything except a conscience.

Malcolm Khross
Doomheim
#40 - 2013-03-07 15:19:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Malcolm Khross
Knoot Enderas wrote:
Khross-haan,

I agree entirely that the "armed uprising" suggested by Ms. Luftschreck and other capsuleers is not the Caldari way. The Amarr Empire has the divine right, the Gallente have mob rule and the state has Corporate Law. Differences of opinion and differing interests involving the megacorps and the CPD must be resolved by and within the confines of the law.

For this reason, I find the anti-Provist "rebelliousness" that is put on display by some capsuleers extremely irritating. We are Caldari! We do not write petitions or wave banners when we want to get something done. We sue the other party in a court of corporate law!

As a humble exchange pilot in the service of the Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris, it is not for me to say how these issues should be resolved, nor is it the business of other Caldari capsuleers.


At least we continue to converse with mutual respect to one another, despite our apparent disagreements.

We are in complete agreement regarding armed uprising. However, I would touch on your final point about the Caldari way being to sue others in a court of corporate law, particularly since one of the articles I linked to you was of that exact procedure being single-handedly disregarded by the wave of an executive order.

I would also disagree that it is not the business of Caldari capsuleers to concern ourselves with matters of the State, I would argue that it is our duty to do so. We who claim to be loyal to the Caldari and to serve the State have a duty and responsibility to serve in the best interests of the State and the Caldari people and to devote our efforts and resources to this service in the proper spirit of the Caldari.

The verbal uprising is perhaps not the most fitting way and true to our ideals, but these are strange and precarious times for us as a people and as a nation.

Bright stars and clear horizons, mate.

~Malcolm Khross