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Me and many other chose the ways of piracy. As stands in New Eden "Every decision should have its consequences". But what we actually get? We get no highsec, we get guns on the gates and we get a big black .... and nothing else.

While if you chose Militia warfare u get a really good way to earn isk and pvp in same time. And what are the consequences for Militia. Actually none in proportion what pirates ones are.

So, what to do? I ask CCP for that - standing to actually meter to pirates. From -5 and below each level (-5, -6 ,-7 ,-8, -9) should open the doors for every pirate faction lv missions respectively (1, 2 ,3 ,4 ,5) Pirate faction standings wouldnt meter if u got negative security standing.

In addition to that near every militia space there should be a pirate hub (small outpost, NPCs in space, etc...) which would give PvP mission against respective militia factions (Gurista against Caldari militia etc). Missions would be kill 10 Different Caldari pilots (Shuttles and noobships dont count) or kill 10 Caldari militia frigates et. Many combinations are possible.

In addition to that the lower the standing u get the minor are the taxes in those hubs which would have its own market. For completing the missions u get isk and lp which u can spend to purchase those faction ship blueprints, ammo, implants etc.

Some interesting mechanics could be added for easier drug production and trading in those hub

Pvp near those should be allowed without NPC interference if u are a - standing and all others especially militia would be attacked on sight. Hubs should be guarded by sentry guns and a NPC fleet (incursion like with sleeper AI) where if bested by the militia side the hub would enter in reinforce for 1 day. The next time if the hub isnt defended by both the NPCs and pirates it should enter a longer reinforce mode (3 days) where the market wouldnt work and a % of items in ti would be lost.

Just few cents of mine. GL and HF!

EDIT1: Just to add few things. As Militia would interfere with the pirate hubs, there would be missions for Pirates to attack the militias plexes, which would weaken their soveregnity.

EDIT 2: U dont enlist in any of the pirate factions. U stay where u are (corp/ alliance wise). U just get to use that - standing somewhere. It is a tool basically for us lowsec outlaws/mercenaries/pirates to earn isk, trough PvP. It can be a roleplay tool also.

It is needed to give more meaning to the other part of lowsec (not militia). Imo the right way is to build around militia warfare which is a great success also for lowsec. U get to lay foundation for more meaningful Pirate faction warfare.

Later u can add CONCORD hubs too just like u did with pirate warfare. Where players would take in their hand policing lowsec and earn isk/lp for their effort.

EDIT 3: Sansha hubs. Missions against everyone. Where u could turn in LP and spawn incursions once per month in constellations by your choosing. let say 1mil is needed per month to spawn an incursion. CCP put some 10 constellation of strategic importance for EVE players to chose from. Players put lp in designated pots for each of those constellation. When 1 mil lp is given, the constellation pot with highest lp gets the incursion. Higher the standing with Sansha u have lesser the penalties in the incursions u ll have.

Yeah but pirates used to attack ship a ship take the cargo, destroy it and run away. But i do agree is hard atm to draw a line between an outlaw and a pirate.

This doesn't make much sense.

You've made a conscious choice to not be selective about your targets. When you see something you think you can take, you take it. That's the benefit to your lifestyle. You also benefit from non-criminal players taking pot shots at you and thereby becoming legal targets since you're simply defending yourself.

While it's true that you don't have the benefits of being in a militia, you are also not encumbered by the target selection problem Militia pilots bear. You also have a lower barrier of entry in that you don't need to have any faction standing to start shooting random ships. And you don't make yourself an enemy of any particular empire (by fighting against it).

I do think you ought to be able to fly into high-sec without any penalty other than the big red flashing that is your badge of 'honor' ... which, you know, would force players to police their own space once in a while.

Story-wise there is really no reason for any 'pirate' faction to trust you. You select random targets and blow them up -- that doesn't make you more trustworthy to the criminal element, it makes you either a competitor or someone to fear.

And finally, the Sansha are not pirates in the sense that you're thinking of them, they are a society of slaves.

Security Status is determined by CONCORD and has nothing to do with the influence on standings between players and NPC corporations. Just like earning the trust/better agent missions for the Empire NPC corps, you need to earn the trust of the pirate NPC corps by shooting red crosses.

Unless you can provide a justification for implementing a radically different system for Pirate NPC corps...no.


Militia space is still controlled by the Empires and monitored by CONCORD. Why would they stand by and let filthy pilots lay claim to permanent digs in their space? What purpose does interfering with the Militias serve for the pirate factions?


And those mechanics would be..............