Jita Park Speakers Corner

I personally have never bothered with a crossing zebra interview of any candidate.

But what Myanna has posted on these forums was well thought out, clear and well communicated.

Maybe he is not a good speaker or maybe he likes to think before opening his mouth.

So the pauses might just be a pause for thought, and frankly that would be a good thing as too many people speak without thinking. And yes I know I just stood up for a Goon candidate but frankly I feel Myanna is the best one from Goonswarm so far and actually deserves of the seat he will get.

Are NPC alts the standard of excellence in these forums? You can probably do better than that.

Vince well and truly has made up his mind. He's said elsewhere that he has nothing to say to me and so conversely, I have nothing to say to him. While I of course can force nothing, I'd encourage my "syncophants" to take the same approach and so keep the thread clear for other posters more willing to engage.

Fear not, mynnna and I have negotiated a reciprocal thread-hijacking agreement.

Spoil Sport, I was hoping to be called a Goonsheep alt again

Hello there!

I would like to name several situations that I feel are detrimental to the game. Give a solution and ask you for your stance on both. I do need answers to all the situations for my vote(s)

POS those three letters bring nightmares to just about anyone having the misfortune of having to operate one. The solution in the long term is obviously modular POS. Yet CCP seems to be backpedaling on implementing this despite the MANY benefits. What is your stance on the possibility of a near term bandage of a form of player POS that is only designed to be the equilivant of a Secure Container for ships until modular POS is ready?

Overpowered passive cloaking. It is now to the point where people are now beyond AFK cloaking but running Twitch.tv streams of enemy stations and systems! Would you support balancing cloaking to punish those who go AFK (Eventually able to be scanned down for decloak) while maintaining the benefits to people actively cloaking (Remaining at their keyboard)

Lack of Ring Mining. Again with the CCP backpedaling despite the many benefits for nullsec and other areas for the game. What is your stand on the crap that is moon mining?

The silly push by some in the community to end or delay "Local" or any effective means for those in a nullsec system to determine if a hostile or unknown is in system in them. This obviously needs no solution but I want your thoughts.

The horrible state of missions in hisec. The solution in my opinion is a complete rewrite to allow for a more incursion like approach that rewards those who want to train up logistic frigs and cruisers or be a specific role in a fleet. Also providing a way for newer players to experience group play in EVE.

Incursion suckage. With the nerfs to Incursions fleets have slowed to a trickle and it was sad to see CCP willing to spend more development time nerfing entire expansions instead of doing what was right being making other aspects of EVE better. Modular POS and Ring mining need dev time sooner so I will admit this ought to be looked at later however I wanted to get your views on them and have this to be some context to the next aspect of Logi.

Logi suckage. Logis do not have the tools to do their job. They need to be able to tell who is locked and taking damage and in large fleets the watchlist can't handle that leading to dependence on broadcasts that most of EVE seems to not know or refuse to use right. Look at any average HQ incursion fleet where people don't broadcast right stressing out logi or in fleet fights where following FCs orders makes it harder to broadcast properly. A solution is a logi only screen that is completely configurable to show who is taking the most DPS and who has the most locks in fleet.

Logi Suckage #2 Reps don't get you on mails? Wut? Solution obviously is to have repping those in fleet land you on killmails generated from fleet.

Given the particular loaded terms you used in some of your descriptions, you're not going to like around half my answers. Just a forewarning.

POS need work, and small bandaid fixes such as the one you characterized are an option to hold things over, hopefully until a more thorough revamp. Moon mining needs work, and I almost don't care whether that's a brand new system such as ring mining, where all the wealth is garnered from the bottom up, or merely a revamp of the existing top down system so that the wealth is somewhat more evenly distributed. There are merits to both approaches.

You'd need to elaborate more on what you mean by the "horrible state of missions" and "incursion suckage" if you want a real answer, else I'm left guessing.

Logistics should be on killmails and I recall hearing that CCP is working on it. Beyond that they're fine, I think that the cooperative "Hey I need reps/Okay here you go" system is far preferable to players simply receiving reps/heals a la WoW/GW/anything else. And beyond that, logistics are already far too mandatory for combat of virtually all types and scales as it is. Making logistics even easier to use is a step in the wrong direction there.

And then the big one - AFK cloaking and local. These are linked issues. AFK cloaking as a ratter deterrent especially is a "thing" because of the existence of perfect, instant and free intelligence in the form of local. Nullsec is not highsec and you are not entitled to any shred of safety there whatsoever, but for the one you can create. That makes an enemy alliance's ratters a very valid target. Unfortunately, these days, if I'm out to attack that target, attempting to undermine an enemy's ratter based income stream, I cannot effectively do this. Local alerts them to my presence instantly, perfectly, and these days even helpfully flashes to let them know of a new presence in system... I can't even use the trick of "jump into a heavily populated system and hope they don't notice I'm there". So that leaves two options. Option number one is I awox them. And, option number two, I camp them, and they either hide and don't rat (thus accomplishing my goal, albeit in the most boring way possible for all parties involved), or they risk my presence, and if I actually am not, in fact, AFK, they get ganked.

Needless to say, it's less than ideal.

So what's the solution here? It is not, as you say, "obviously not a problem". It's a very big one, especially if CCP were to move towards a bottom up sovereignty system, where part of the strength of your claim comes from your pilots using your space. Adjusting the intelligence offered by local is only one part of the puzzle, but my stance on that particular facet is that perfectly instant intel should not be something you can achieve, and whatever intel you do have should come as a result of working and paying for it. I've written in the past about another player's approach that I rather admire. Rather than local or local-like intel being free, perfect and instant, it would cost you based on quality, but quality would improve as you improved your space. The other facet here, though, is revamping the PvE activities themselves. Ultimately, the fact that PvE in nullsec is by and large a solo activity, performed in ships that are ill suited to PvP is what makes the threat of a hostile in a bomber or cloaked HAC so significant. If PvE were more like PvP and used PvP-like fits (a goal CCP has talked about pushing for), players would be more capable of defending themselves from attackers and would feel less threatened by a shadowy lurker. If the PvE system supported a higher player density per system, they'd have more friends close at hand to help them fight off attackers, and if there were more options in the way of group content, those friends would be even closer. So, while it is a problem, it's not a problem with an easy one-shot solution.

So no, at this time I absolutely do not support the removal of AFK cloaking, and I consider the push to adjust the intelligence that local offers to be neither silly nor unneeded.



That's a good way of putting it, although a more careful examination of data that I know they had (as Diagoras was tweeting it) would have exposed those problems beforehand.

Huh. I guess we disagree in what's wong with hisec missions. They aren't wrong in providing a income stream for solo/casual players and thus forcing that people to gang together is a terrybad idea.

What's wrong is that they're too few, too repetitive, and haven't been looked upon since Apochrypha whereas the concept design is even older. And that means that in all likeliness, missions are a massive piece of outdated legacy code, undocumented as usual, and thus overhauling them will require 5x more manpower than usual and CCP has got bigger priorities for the next couple of years.

In short: missions will not be fixed in any way and more bandaids in the shape of drone AI "fixes" are to be expected until 2015.



Incursions are one of my favourite telltales on CCP's abbility to misstep by not getting the basics of human behavior. I recall when I started reading the devblog about incursions and it was like: "Hell yeah! Eventually I will be able to gang with others in hisec and have FUN!", and then I finished reading the devblog and knew that I would not even try them and they would become a niche feature farmed by a little bunch of elitistic powerplayers, instead of becoming an easy way to get into fleet fighting. I'm not a game designer nor anything like that, but certainly I knew that incursions would fail as soon as i read that "only the fleet dealing the more damage will get the bounty".

The part where the elitistic powerplayers who always got the reward where nerfed because they competed with nullsec in ISK/hour was unexpected, but also was a very valuable lesson on why CCP should start considering Human Behavior 101 before developing a large new feature, have it fail to accomplish its stated goals due to an obvious design flaw and eventually be forced to kill it in less than a year.

Happy to bump this topic for someone that has a grasp on how things work. Good luck in the running Mynnna.

Oh look, a post full of butthurt from an NPC corp alt. What a surprise!