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BPO Suggestion, please.
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Optimus Ormand
Optimus Industries
#1 - 2013-03-03 08:43:16 UTC
I just started manufacturing, and have about 2-2.5 billion ISK to spend on a BPO for my first (small) investment. Does anyone have any suggestions as to which would be a good possibility?

This isn't my main account, if anyone was wondering.

Thanks!
Elena Thiesant
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2013-03-03 08:49:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Elena Thiesant
Run the numbers for your trade hub, look for items that have reasonable profit and good movement. There isn't One Best Item, if there were everyone would make it and it wouldn't be One Best for long.

Recommend you avoid T1 ships, low margin, low movement, lots of competition and the recent mineral changes have left most unprofitable to build
Skorpynekomimi
#3 - 2013-03-03 08:50:57 UTC
Why stop at one?

Economic PVP
Optimus Ormand
Optimus Industries
#4 - 2013-03-03 08:53:17 UTC
Skorpynekomimi wrote:
Why stop at one?


I'm not going to stop at one. I'm going to buy them as I get the ISK.
Invictra Atreides
Toward the Terra
#5 - 2013-03-03 09:25:03 UTC
Try Fuel Block BPOs. Rly cheap. Then buy materials worth 2,5 bill.

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Skorpynekomimi
#6 - 2013-03-03 15:34:26 UTC
What do you use regularly that you can make?
Buy the BPO and make that.

Economic PVP
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#7 - 2013-03-03 15:40:12 UTC
I've always liked scripts, but the usual suspects are good too: ammo, drones, rigs.
Optimus Ormand
Optimus Industries
#8 - 2013-03-03 19:05:51 UTC
Skorpynekomimi wrote:
What do you use regularly that you can make?
Buy the BPO and make that.


Because a BPO for what I usually make would be in the 90+bil range.
Skorpynekomimi
#9 - 2013-03-03 19:22:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Skorpynekomimi
Optimus Ormand wrote:
Skorpynekomimi wrote:
What do you use regularly that you can make?
Buy the BPO and make that.


Because a BPO for what I usually make would be in the 90+bil range.


Regularly USE. As in, consumables. Ammo, drones, etc. Find out what your friends use, find out the margins on it, and sell to them below market but at a profit to you.
For example, a friend of mine rejoined eve, and I went out and bought BPOs for the missiles he uses. Then he noticed he was running low, wanted me to make some, and I just happened to have a large run due off the line in a couple of days. So I sold it to him, delivered to his home station, for a significant amount under market price but still at a profit for me.

Otherwise, people are not going to give away their markets so you can barge in with your billions and over-supply it.

Economic PVP
Knorkor
Ministry of Silly Walk
#10 - 2013-03-03 20:56:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Knorkor
Invictra Atreides wrote:
Try Fuel Block BPOs. Rly cheap. Then buy materials worth 2,5 bill.


Good start imho. Ship the Fuel to systems that have a lot of POS'es but not many Blocks in the Market. Maybe have your own freighter, because they are big.
Could make you quite some money.
Could also loo for a corp to supply you with ICE and/or PI Stuff.

Also, they don't need much research. I have my fuel block BPO on ME14 and some PE, that is totally enough to be competitive.
Prekaz
The Exchange Collective
Solyaris Chtonium
#11 - 2013-03-03 22:41:11 UTC
Er... I wouldn't recommend spending billions on your first BPO. You will almost certainly be better off investing in an assortment of (drastically) cheaper BPOs.

Also, think about what it is you want to do. If you're only interested in T1 production, for example, your BPO purchases might be different than someone who is looking to move into invention eventually.
Optimus Ormand
Optimus Industries
#12 - 2013-03-04 02:48:19 UTC
Prekaz wrote:
Er... I wouldn't recommend spending billions on your first BPO. You will almost certainly be better off investing in an assortment of (drastically) cheaper BPOs.

Also, think about what it is you want to do. If you're only interested in T1 production, for example, your BPO purchases might be different than someone who is looking to move into invention eventually.


I've started with invention, actually. But figured I could diversify.
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#13 - 2013-03-04 02:48:39 UTC
Make things that get blown up a lot.

PVP oriented modules, Catalysts and the things they are usually fitted with, and mining ships. All of them go boom a lot, often in the same incidents.

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Nitrogen Isotopes
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#14 - 2013-03-04 02:54:07 UTC
I hear freighter blueprint copies sell well once you put a few months of research into them.
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#15 - 2013-03-04 03:26:53 UTC
Oh and it should be mentioned that a BPO for the big ore bay mining ship is a licence to print money. Although they are not cheap BPOs at all.

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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#16 - 2013-03-04 03:49:03 UTC
Nitrogen Isotopes wrote:
I hear freighter blueprint copies sell well once you put a few months of research into them.

I recently was asked for a quote for research for freighter BPOs.

The potential customer was rather surprised at the time for ME 5 + PE 1:
* ME 5 would take 5 months 16 days 16h in a POS lab
* PE 1 would take 1 month 20 days in a POS lab
Total ESTIMATE: 7 months 6 days 16 hours in a POS lab
Nitrogen Isotopes
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#17 - 2013-03-04 04:16:13 UTC
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:
Oh and it should be mentioned that a BPO for the big ore bay mining ship is a licence to print money. Although they are not cheap BPOs at all.


as long as all the people that haven't been producing any for months don't pick up on the fact
Optimus Ormand
Optimus Industries
#18 - 2013-03-04 07:08:24 UTC
I appreciate all the responses, however, I'm now more confused than ever. lol
Prekaz
The Exchange Collective
Solyaris Chtonium
#19 - 2013-03-04 20:27:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Prekaz
Nitrogen Isotopes wrote:
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:
Oh and it should be mentioned that a BPO for the big ore bay mining ship is a licence to print money. Although they are not cheap BPOs at all.


as long as all the people that haven't been producing any for months don't pick up on the fact



If there's one group in Eve that can always be relied upon to give away margin, it's S&I.

I swear, this place is primarily populated by people who are incapable of observing that they are making a profit without immediately following that observation up with, "Well, I simply must do something to put a stop to this AT ONCE!" P
Aiden Channing
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2013-03-04 21:08:09 UTC
Optimus Ormand wrote:
I appreciate all the responses, however, I'm now more confused than ever. lol

You're supposed to be. Manufacturing is a gamble in many cases and highly subject to the whims of the market.

I recommend looking at things that meet at least one of these criteria:
  • Item(s) with no meta level
  • Item(s) always getting blown up
  • Item(s) required to make bigger items
  • Item(s) your corp uses a lot

There are many tools that can help you decide what to make listed on this board so poke around and see what you find.

Good luck!
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