Intergalactic Summit

You're being a bit pedantic Sepherim. You know exactly what I meant. The fact remains that your people invaded both the Minmatar Empire and Jovian Directorate, sovereign entities that had functioning governments and infrastructure to provide for the well being of their respective populations.

Your attempt at obfuscating the facts by making a point to jump on my imprecise use of language does not invalidate the facts and thus, fails.

When Louvaki begins expounding even the merest sliver of wisdom, you have my honest word that I will take a moment to contemplate it.

Given that this is Louvaki we're talking about, though, I won't exactly be holding my breath.

Ensign Sepherim;
Since you seem to like technicalities, the Yulai Convention and the Yoiul Accords are different things. The Yoiul Accords is the treaty that established peace between the Four Empires, recognized the Minmatar Republic as a sovereign state, created CONCORD, established the uniform time keeping system, created the ISK, and a whole lot other things. The Yulai Convention is a subsection of the Yoiul Accords, that governs the rules of interstellar warfare.

Your suggestion of dishonesty from the Republic is classic rhetoric. The Minmatar people have ALWAYS repelled the yoke in one way or another no matter what title you give them. The only reason Amarr haven’t violated this accord it’s simply because it can’t, doing so will dig its own grave. The real insincerity is that Amarr by following men’s law is forfeiting Gods holy command of the Reclaiming eroding its fundamental moral values, lazily choosing hypocrisy over responsibility.

Or perhaps you share my conclusion that the current interpretations of the scriptures have been manipulated for only one purpose, which is the projection of power disguised as the Lord's word.

To clarify, the Amarr Empire conquered the Minmatar Empire, which composed of a whooping three solar systems. We have never invaded the Minmater Republic, which includes those same three solar systems and more than a few Amarrian ones as well. And there was also a gap of several centuries between the fall of the former and the rise of the latter.

If you want to know more about the Republic's history you can look it up in the databases at the CONCORD station in Yulai.

We follow our rules and accords. We haven't broken Yulai, and we obey what our Empress says. That's all the rules we need.



I would suggest you check my posts, in this topic and elsewhere, looking for one time I have called your people savages. I believe you won't find it, because that's not how I feel about the Minmatarr. I'm sure that, if we were not on opposing lines of war, we could perfectly be friends and have a few drinks together in a bar confortably. Politics has cast us in two differnet sides of the battlelines, you honor your duty, we honor our own.

I disagree with your people being killed unnecessarily, and that was the whole point of this topic since the begining, even if it has evolved in other directions. I believe all lives are precious and valuable, those of the Amarr and those of the other sides of the border, and abhor the unneeded killing, specially of civilians. Am I dishonest? Am I lusting for power?

The Empire is very big, there are all sorts of people here. Some ninth generation slaves fled the Empire to the Republic. Many also stayed. We reap what we sow, but we haven't planted only fire and storm, we have planted good things among the bad ones as well. And we're human, we have human faults, and weaknesses. Of that, we all are equally guilty, no matter how transhumans some would wish themselves... maybe with the exception of the Sansha, I'm not sure of those.

So then, am I the monster you want me to be? Are they the millions like me in the Empire?

Ensign Sepherim
I must apologize for when I say “you” I refer to you as “the Amarrian people” and I don’t presume to know you personally, I merely pointed out my opinion of the ideal you adhere to.

What I find hypocrite Ensign Sepherim is that you say the killing of slaves by freedom fighters is unnecessary, when you jump in your warship and murder anyone that gets in the way of disenfranchising others. Both of the ideals justify murder for its cause and you denouncing the practice of your enemy when you yourself do it its insincere.

As for your commentary about faults and human weakness we all share, perhaps you should remember it when your pulling that trigger to impose your ideals into others.

About those drink, we can have them anytime and talk about this as I’m not your enemy however you might want to consult your superiors as I understand you’re not allowed to fraternize with people like me.

You are a member of the Praetorian? I wonder if this is what they teach because it is certainly not in line with Amarrian tradition and heritage. The Scriptures are a massive part of our culture and history, play an integral part in our laws and society and have been a source of guidance for generations. While the Empress is indeed our Divinely appointed leader, her word is but one part of what guides us. Placing something as temporal as Yulai above the Scriptures is tantamount to heresy.

Pilot Shale has a valid point in that we have squandered our blessings and favor in the past, you needn't an outsider to make that plain if you are a student of history with an objective mind.



This speaks highly of you.

Cpt. Raynes, if you read carefully you will see that my fellow Praetorian referred to the Scriptures first, even if not bluntly so.

Faithfully,
N. Mithra

The Republic is a devil of amarrian making, with the Reclaiming boundaries were erased spreading the Minmatar across the Empire .When the seed of hate finally sprouted the Republic formed and claimed their kin revoking Amarr's claim over them. The excuse of sovereignty in this case is as absurd as saying the caldarians that remained in Caldari Prime after the breakout from the Federation were Gallente citizens.

You choose to follow the Empire's command, your honour binds you to follow orders but if those orders aren't examined with reason what is the difference between you and a Citizen from the Nation... only the targets you lock?

PS: I don't subscribe to any government yet, as my recent status as capsuleer have revealed different perspectives, while you assumed I was Minmatar by the color of my skin and the content of my arguments its but half true as my other half is Khanid and follows God's teachings, So Ensign Sepherim we are not enemies and we are not at war.

If the Divinely appointed Empress says to obey a treaty, how is it heresy? The Scriptures were not written in one day, nor have the stopped being written even now. The Universe evolves, the Empire evolves, we evolve and the Scriptures evolve with them.

Between the Age of Fire and the Age of Fusion there are many steps, many of them dirty and unclean - power generation through burning of fossil fuels, for example. Toxic wastes and other such hazards that harm the environment. Yet without going through those intermediate stages we never would be able to reach the point of being able to produce clean, efficient power sources. The same can be said of most technologies. The most primitive spaceships were once powered by chemical fuel sources, if you can imagine such a thing. Yet without those steps on the ladder we would not have warp drives or stargates today.

The point? All in God's will, and through God the Empress. We have suffered and we have made mistakes, which make many wonder doubt how infallible God's will really is. My answer is that these mistakes had to be made; that they are all steps on the ladder of progress. If we don't go through all the steps we will never reach our true destiny.

So as far as the Scriptures go... I do not consider it heresy if today the Empress makes a decree that goes against something that was written a thousand years ago. I believe that God put her Her Imperial Majesty here to guide us into the future, not to hold us in the past. Yes, the Scriptures are the foundation of our society, but foundations are there to be built upon.

There was a time when we conquered system after system in the name of the Reclaiming, and it worked. It worked until we encountered the Jove and then it stopped working. Why could we not conquer them as well? It was God's will, as with everything else. Because of the Jove all the warring nations were dragged to the table to start a new era of peace. Why did this happen? Because the age of conquest had ended, we had carved out enough space to be secure and stand strong. To grow any further might have stretched us beyond our limits, resulting in eventual anarchy and collapse.

It was clear that a new direction was needed and we went that way. We signed the treaties, we've kept our word, and put the age of conquest behind us. The Reclaiming of today is not done with fleets or lasers but with missionaries and priests. It is a peaceful reclaiming that doesn't expand our borders but instead creates new nations that are bound by a shared Faith. The Ammatar Mandate and the Khanid Kingdom are not part of the Amarr Empire, yet they are allies and always shall be so long as we all embrace the Faith. As the Faith spreads across borders opened by peace we will gain more allies. I do not see nor even want to see a future where the Gallente or the Caldari become part of the Empire. But I do see a future when the Word of God has spread through both and we can all stand united beneath His eyes.

So no, I see no heresy here.