Intergalactic Summit

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Recent statements by Mentas Blaque, coupled with the pace of events within the Caldari State moving faster than ever have made it clear that the status quo in the Luminaire system, specifically Caldari Prime, can not continue. We are all aware of the facts, we are all aware of the justifications on either side for courses of action that could cost millions of lives. I'm not here for a continuation of the same circular arguments, I'm here to propose an alternative before it is too late. Mine isn't an original idea, I've heard it discussed in The Summit and elsewhere at length by others, but perhaps now its an idea who's day has arrived.

Caldari Prime, its orbital bodies and structures, and immediate surrounding space should be designated as a Demilitarized Zone, and both Gallente and Caldari Naval forces forbidden from operating warships within that Zone. Sovereignty should be recognized as belonging to the Caldari State, with full autonomy for Gallente Citizens who make their homes there. Security should be provided by CONCORD.

This is the basic outline, the details can be hashed out by the politicians and the diplomats, but it needs to happen without delay. Capsuleers loyal to the Federation, and to the Caldari State should contact their elected or corporate representatives and call upon them to act.

With escalating rhetoric on both sides, and war raging on in the Frontier regions as violently as ever we should all recognize the grave risk posed by the continued Caldari Navy presence in the Lumiaire system. Any change in leadership within the Caldari State puts command and control functions aboard the Leviathan-Class Titan in orbit over Caldari Prime in question. The risk of atrocity to Gallente Citizens on Caldari Prime if lines of command were to break down is too great to be ignored. Conversely, the longer that instability continues to rise, the higher the likelihood of Federal Navy intervention with terrible consequences for Caldari Citizens. That in itself could cause the tragedy that Fed Navy personel would seek to prevent.

I urge all of you who seek to prevent civilian casualties, Gallente and Caldari alike, to act quickly to see the capability to commit atrocities taken from the hands of irresponsible leaders on both sides.

What does the Federation get for the concession of Luminaire VII?

Mentus Blaque is unpopular with a lot of people because he tells the truth when the majority are too afraid to tell it themselves. Tibus Heth is a menace, and if the Caldari don't remove him from power then it's up to the Federation, whether the Caldari want it or not.

Think about it, this man killed thousands of his own loyal citizens, many of them people who supported his regime and made him the man he is, just for peacefully protesting. He just had them shot up and isn't even willing to say anything about it. If he felt he made a mistake he would of told us by now. I'm going to repeat myself again, he slaughtered his own people. Imagine what he would do to people he considers his enemies, in other words the Federation? Tibus Heth, if given the chance, would show no mercy to Gallente men, women, and children. He could even order a genocide if he wanted to, his soldiers are nothing but drones. They see what Heth wants them to see, they hear what Heth wants them to hear, and they do what Heth want them.

Heth staying in power is a threat to not only the Caldari State, but the Gallente Federation. He has a Titan just a few AU away from our homeworld. The situation is a lot like having a serial killer in your home with a loaded gun. If you don't get rid of him, then we might be forced to.



Nothing, which is fine. We are Gallente, we do things because they are the right thing to do. We aren't centered on making profits or appeasing a God.

Caldari Prime needs to belong to the Caldari and Tibus Heth has to be ousted from power. If these two things are never accomplished there will never be peace.

I'm fairly sure this is uncharted territory for CONCORD. Apparently they intervened to flag Home Guard pilots as Suspects for firing on the Freighters of civillian protesters. Would Federal Navy ships incur a similar penalty for attacking the State Leviathan? Would the response to the Caldari Navy bombarding Caldari Prime be a mere suspect penalty? Whatever response they would make, I'm fairly sure the Federation doesn't want to withdraw from the Assembly. At any rate, these questions are tangential to the main topic of discusion here.



I think these terms are fairly straightforward and well understood by the general capsuleer population. The precise details are what I think it would be best for the diplomats to hammer out formally. However, it probably would be of use for Caldari Citizens to express what their viewpoint is on what "Sovereignty" of Caldari Prime means to them. For my part, I believe that the Gallente population of Caldari Prime should be assured of their ability to govern themselves and maintain their rights within the structure of the Caldari State, as well as their access to free travel within the Federation.

I hardly think a CONCORD sponsored coup de'tat against Tibus Heth would have been acceptable to the Caldari People. Most citizens of the four Empires would be bitterly opposed to any outside entity forcibly changing their regime. I'd hardly stand idly by if CONCORD swooped in to overthrow any President of the Federation, whether I voted for the current occupant of that office or not.

This kind of goading is hardly productive. Heth is on his way out because he is losing the support of the Caldari themselves. They will have a new government eventually, the only question is how much damage Tibus Heth will inflict before he goes. Rather than loose talk about Black Eagle covert action, this topic is intended for us to talk about protecting civilian lives on Caldari Prime.

I'm curious, what is your position on establishing a Caldari Prime DMZ?

Well we shouldn't settle for anything less than the Black Rise region.

That depends entirely on how much the planet is worth, doesn't it?

Clearly Caldari Prime isn't that important, then.

I didn't expect this kind of provocation from you, Andreus. We've both spent enough time debating the occupation of Caldari Prime in the Summit to know many Caldari think they have the superior position with their Titan secure in the Luminaire system. They're hardly going to cede large tracts of territory in exchange for a Homeworld thats already been taken by force as far as the average Caldari is concerned.

For my part, I think full withdrawal of the Caldari Navy from our space and a guarantee that the Gallente populace can continue to live unmolested on Caldari Prime are ample "concessions" to the Federation.