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Hello Market Discussion Community

I am looking for a 5 billion isk investment. I have been manufacturing for the entire time I have played EVE. My last bond went very well, close to 2 billion in profit in including fees and interest. I currently have most of my capital tied up in BC that I am working on selling. As such I am looking for investors who are looking for a safe and reliable income. Now time for the details.

Bond I Info [Filled]

- 5 billion isk
- Uncollateralized
- 10% interest per month
- Goes until Summer Expansion*
- Minimum investment 100 million
- Optional rollover
- Cash out option available within 48-72 hours of request

Bond II Info [Canceled]

- 1.3 billion isk
- Collateralized with (1.6 billion isk in BPO and decryptors)
- 2% interest per month
- Goes until summer expansion*
- Only avalible to one invester, it will not be broken up into smaller peices
- Optional rollover
- Cash out option available within 48-72 hours of request.
- Have yet to find a 3rd party as everyone I have contacted has been unavailbe to do it for various reasons. I will be contacting several other people shortly.


*The bond will go to the summer expansion but once a month each investor can pull their investment or they can keep it invested. Interest will be sent to each investor as, at least at first will not be doing compound interest. After the summer expansion I will decide whether or not to continue it.

Current Plan

I will be manufacturing battleships(BS) primarily but will keep an eye out for other opportunities. I plan on doing 1, 2, and 3 tier BS and some faction BS when I can. I plan on building BS and selling them off in batches so I can grow the number of BS I can build at time up to patch day.

I currently do not have any BS BPO’s as it will tie up too much of my capital currently. What I plan to do is keep an eye out for good priced BS BPO’s and to buy some several months before the patch at the latest. I currently have a nice selection of BS BPC’s to use and feel confidante in being able to buy more as I need them.

What I am offering to Counter the No Collateral

- I can not offer any collateral because all of the isk I have is being invested in this project. I do not have anyone one item worth very much, most of what I have is for production of tech 2 or tech 1 items.
- I am willing to give the investor or potential investor my api
- I do not haul my items, I use courier contracts so there is a low risk of losing isk in hauling the items.
- Weekly updates to investors about how the week has gone. In the updates I will try to include profits, ships produced, ships sold, current plans, future plans, and answer any questions that are raised.

If you have any questions or concerns please mail me or try to convo me. Mailing would work better as I can check it easier when I am out of game. You could also post the question here. I am also open to constructive criticism.

Thank you for your time and fly safe.

Link to my first bond

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=197891&find=unread

EDIT: Added a second bond (Bond II)

Investors:

Bond I

Pinnel: 300 million
SinTeryx: 500 million
I LIKE IT: 1 billion
Angelique Duchemin: 3 billion

Bond II

Babysteps my friend , babysteps ....

I 2nd this motion.

I'd just like to say that I'm eagerly waiting to speak to the person who offers you 15B without collat'.

I like the enthusiasm dude but atm with mineral prices being what they are, attempting to make a bs with bought minerals isn't nearly as profitable as you'd hope.

Can you show the math you're using to guarantee the investment? Prices change and fall, mineral prices are rising atm..

I can post a picture of my spreadsheets if that would help. I do not use a computer program, I use penceil and paper for my spreadsheets. To help off set the mineral price changes I will be buying as much as I can locally where I can get them much cheaper and then shipping in the difference. Also I will be not only biulding BS but also some faction moduls and T2 moduls. I can give people my api key to show that I do have BC I am selling, have BS BPC's ready to use, and that I have a large amount of manufacturing mayerials. I know this only shows that I can do what I saw I plan to do.

That's not how you build confidence. This is how you build confidence

Present the idea, endure the flak, address the issues. No dodging. Even then he's two thirds short of his goal but he's doing alright for someone with no collateral.

And you can't fight this issue on the battlefield of motives. 15 billion is triple the motive required to sacrifice a 5 month old character and whatever reputation it has accumulated.

The question you need to ask yourself at this point :

Should i be stubborn and stick with the 15 B offer because that is my aim , or should i lower it to 5B wich still is 5* more then my 1st and only offer on MD and work with that isk and slowly progress to the 15B i had in mind in later bonds?







Just a sidenote : i have found that the longer people keep with the aimed request the lower the chance will be that any amount wil be filled once the penny drops.

Buy me a machariel, then contract it to me with 1.38b isk, i will then contract it back to your for 1.38b isk, you then melt it, use the minerals to speculate BS's with no patch notes & no credibility.