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So I was searching through the GalNet archives. . .
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Sepherim
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#21 - 2013-03-02 15:35:50 UTC
Not really. In my investigations on who this Sepherim I'm usually mistaken with is, I've found he spent plenty of time there. And he didn't seem to agree with either captain Constantine or captain Neferis, and yet there was... some sort of strange relation. Like understanding or something, very disgusting.

But, in any case, logs retain the interaction of more pilots not agreeing with them and not being banned. Probably just trying to corrupt them, though.

Sepherim Catillah Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris Liuteneant Ex-Imperial Navy Imperator Commander
Gosakumori Noh
Coven of One
#22 - 2013-03-02 17:37:07 UTC
Alizabeth Vea wrote:

I'm not sure what you mean by your little corner. Can you elaborate?


A leader of your alliance many years ago observed that the true currency of our Cluster is not ISK, ships, stations, or anything so mundane; but rather, the acquisition and retention of sovereign rights. It isn't a particularly pleasant contention, but I am inclined to agree that it is the least ambiguous yardstick of success in our present civilization.

"Our little corner," meanwhile, is a collection of conversations that, combined in their entirety, do not rise to the first tick of that stick. It's true: we are of no consequence to the price of tea in Deklein. However, unlike Fountain, Fortress Delve, or remote regions of distant droning, neither are these ethereal musings in the least bit vulnerable to conquest. Our corners are orthogonal. But you've stuck it out here, and did try to blow up a bunch of Matari witch doctors, so I should certainly say: keep up the good work!

Based on all that, I might further imagine the tenor of "Freewoman Constantine's" response to you:

"I choose my words carefully, and I say that I have devoted my entire career - a career possibly, perhaps even likely, older than that of any member of any alliance that you have ever been a member of - to one pursuit: elevation of the individual as sovereign. You are one member of an organization of ten thousand members premised on the single-minded proposition that only might is right. We have nothing to say to one another."

That said, I don't believe "Freewoman Constantine" cared for "our little corner" much, either; and so ironically, the two of you might find common ground in that. Consequently, while I don't imagine your conversation would last long, or even start, there is an iddy-biddy little chance that it might be quite entertaining.
Alizabeth Vea
Doomheim
#23 - 2013-03-03 15:52:18 UTC
Gosakumori Noh wrote:
Alizabeth Vea wrote:

I'm not sure what you mean by your little corner. Can you elaborate?


A leader of your alliance many years ago observed that the true currency of our Cluster is not ISK, ships, stations, or anything so mundane; but rather, the acquisition and retention of sovereign rights. It isn't a particularly pleasant contention, but I am inclined to agree that it is the least ambiguous yardstick of success in our present civilization.

"Our little corner," meanwhile, is a collection of conversations that, combined in their entirety, do not rise to the first tick of that stick. It's true: we are of no consequence to the price of tea in Deklein. However, unlike Fountain, Fortress Delve, or remote regions of distant droning, neither are these ethereal musings in the least bit vulnerable to conquest. Our corners are orthogonal. But you've stuck it out here, and did try to blow up a bunch of Matari witch doctors, so I should certainly say: keep up the good work!

Based on all that, I might further imagine the tenor of "Freewoman Constantine's" response to you:

"I choose my words carefully, and I say that I have devoted my entire career - a career possibly, perhaps even likely, older than that of any member of any alliance that you have ever been a member of - to one pursuit: elevation of the individual as sovereign. You are one member of an organization of ten thousand members premised on the single-minded proposition that only might is right. We have nothing to say to one another."

That said, I don't believe "Freewoman Constantine" cared for "our little corner" much, either; and so ironically, the two of you might find common ground in that. Consequently, while I don't imagine your conversation would last long, or even start, there is an iddy-biddy little chance that it might be quite entertaining.



Your posts are always and enjoyable read; I would like you to know that.

As for your imagination of Ms. Constantine's words, I would have agreed with her, not too long ago, before I joined Goonswarm, before I saw first hand what communism can accomplish. My interest in Ms. Constantine is not her political views, but the person behind them. That is why I seek her out. And since it seems that she does not read "this little corner," I will have to try a more direct approach.

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Anabella Rella
Gradient
Electus Matari
#24 - 2013-03-03 16:36:57 UTC
As much as it pains me to be even remotely on the same side of a question as the reprehensible Noh, I find myself agreeing that Pilot Constantine would have nothing to say to a Goon.

When the world is running down, you make the best of what's still around.
Gosakumori Noh
Coven of One
#25 - 2013-03-03 22:43:04 UTC
Alizabeth Vea wrote:
My interest in Ms. Constantine is not her political views, but the person behind them. That is why I seek her out. And since it seems that she does not read "this little corner," I will have to try a more direct approach.


More power to you, then. Perhaps she will speak to you in your capacity as a member of the press. Of course, trust might remain an issue, given that she could imagine your intentions are to depict her in a poor light, but there is certainly a story to be had if everyone comes together in... the spirit of cooperation that is New Eden - all right, well, even apart from all that.
Davlos
State War Academy
Caldari State
#26 - 2013-03-04 08:08:54 UTC
Knowing Constantine, any Goon attempting to speak to her would be kindly told to **** off before they could pronounce "Saiimah H'rai'ntarahnah".
Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
#27 - 2013-05-06 22:57:56 UTC
Five and a half years on from Mito and its still a faint pleasure to prove you wrong monsieur Davlos. I have had my share of poor experiences with Goonswarm pilots of course, and I've found the organization itself rather disappointing in the grand scheme of things (from the perspective of seeing their rise from obscurity to triumph in war then decline to a rather ordinary nullsec aristocracy with the usual shady connections in Concord).

But these days I'm something of an anarchist firebrand in retirement, I've survived many foes but succumbed to the sweet ennui of time's passing and organizational entropy. I miss my friends and comrades, and the wild insanity of my heretical lover, and I fondly remember the fires we lit together to burn effigies of the hallowed nationalist leaders across New Eden!

Still, some in this thread guess correctly my response to Goonswarm as a whole is not likely a polite one (how can one treat with a collective stripped of individual sovereignty without a gesture of mild disgust after all) But a single reporter possessed of ego and ambition, making far claims of seducing the Mittani and putting horns on the tyrant's wife? Temper mixed feelings with a dose of curiosity, I've always been fascinated by the grotesque hierarchy in its terminal state - who knows, perhaps a little insight may come from the knifeplay.



The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom
Makkal Hanaya
Revenent Defence Corperation
#28 - 2013-05-06 23:22:40 UTC
Alizabeth Vea wrote:
Like The Mittani, I would not say that I knew him until I really started talking to him in person. He's much more charming and dashing than most people make him out to be.


A man described as a 'cult leader,' 'perfect social chameleon,' and 'manipulative sociopath' is charming and dashing in person.

Will wonders never cease?

Render unto Khanid the things which are Khanid's; and unto God the things that are God's.
Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#29 - 2013-05-06 23:29:13 UTC
Strange beyond words, all this. Was this Constantine's work an experiment on the limits of capsuleer sovereignty?

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Makkal Hanaya
Revenent Defence Corperation
#30 - 2013-05-06 23:40:57 UTC
If you mean her 'work' in general, I'd say it was that and more.

If you mean the establishment mentioned in the original message, I'd suggest it was the sort of place pious Khanid women would best be ignorant of. Though I've heard there were interesting conversations and the atmosphere was enjoyable for those who enjoy those sorts of things.

Render unto Khanid the things which are Khanid's; and unto God the things that are God's.
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