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Stealth Nerf Much?

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Drake Doe
88Th Tax Haven
#21 - 2013-03-02 16:58:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Drake Doe
When your sp is that high and you don't know basic things like that, you fail ar EVE no ifs, ands, or buts. I suggest you hand over that high sp toon to someone whose hardly at a 10th of your sp.

On second though i don't want it because your sp may be poorly allocated

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Zan Shiro
Doomheim
#22 - 2013-03-02 18:10:36 UTC
Inkarr Hashur wrote:
I don't think the sig radius has ever been referred to as an "EM footprint" before, so I don't blame you.



t2 high damage ammo had this same drawback and CCP used the same wording in its description as I recall. A tengu/drake pilot before the removal should have seen this wording. And seen sig radius go to crap with furies mounted. It was not a stealthy number change.

And ,well, what else can it mean. Its not like caldari can have a worse em hole than that of 0 %.

Makavelia
National Industries
#23 - 2013-03-03 13:48:37 UTC
Drake Doe wrote:
When your sp is that high and you don't know basic things like that, you fail ar EVE no ifs, ands, or buts. I suggest you hand over that high sp toon to someone whose hardly at a 10th of your sp.

On second though i don't want it because your sp may be poorly allocated


I'm sure i could find things in eve you have no idea about.
Drake Doe
88Th Tax Haven
#24 - 2013-03-03 16:02:50 UTC
Makavelia wrote:
Drake Doe wrote:
When your sp is that high and you don't know basic things like that, you fail ar EVE no ifs, ands, or buts. I suggest you hand over that high sp toon to someone whose hardly at a 10th of your sp.

On second though i don't want it because your sp may be poorly allocated


I'm sure i could find things in eve you have no idea about.

Probably, but I doubt it'll be something you're exposed to early in the game and be relevant to ships and/or modules I use.

"The homogenization of EVE began when Gallente and Caldari started sharing a weapon system."---Vermaak Doe-- "Ohh squabbles ohh I love my dust trolls like watching an episode of Maury with less " Is he my Dad " but more of " My Neighbor took a dump on my lawn " good episode! pops more corn" ---Evernub--

Makavelia
National Industries
#25 - 2013-03-03 16:41:56 UTC
Drake Doe wrote:
Makavelia wrote:
Drake Doe wrote:
When your sp is that high and you don't know basic things like that, you fail ar EVE no ifs, ands, or buts. I suggest you hand over that high sp toon to someone whose hardly at a 10th of your sp.

On second though i don't want it because your sp may be poorly allocated


I'm sure i could find things in eve you have no idea about.

Probably, but I doubt it'll be something you're exposed to early in the game and be relevant to ships and/or modules I use.


Assuming everybody goes down the same path as you. Assuming.
Drake Doe
88Th Tax Haven
#26 - 2013-03-03 17:09:43 UTC
Makavelia wrote:
Drake Doe wrote:
Makavelia wrote:
Drake Doe wrote:
When your sp is that high and you don't know basic things like that, you fail ar EVE no ifs, ands, or buts. I suggest you hand over that high sp toon to someone whose hardly at a 10th of your sp.

On second though i don't want it because your sp may be poorly allocated


I'm sure i could find things in eve you have no idea about.

Probably, but I doubt it'll be something you're exposed to early in the game and be relevant to ships and/or modules I use.


Assuming everybody goes down the same path as you. Assuming.

The op finally looked at the attributes of a module he's apparently used for more than a short while, and i doubt they'd skip using mwds on frigates completely.

"The homogenization of EVE began when Gallente and Caldari started sharing a weapon system."---Vermaak Doe-- "Ohh squabbles ohh I love my dust trolls like watching an episode of Maury with less " Is he my Dad " but more of " My Neighbor took a dump on my lawn " good episode! pops more corn" ---Evernub--

Kalla Vera Quiroga
Strategic Exploration and Development Corp
Silent Company
#27 - 2013-03-03 21:43:14 UTC
There's also a mass penalty that should be like a third of most T1 cruiser hulls, wouldn't they penalize agility significantly?
Batelle
Federal Navy Academy
#28 - 2013-03-04 16:01:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Batelle
Kalla Vera Quiroga wrote:
There's also a mass penalty that should be like a third of most T1 cruiser hulls, wouldn't they penalize agility significantly?


Yes. While your prop mod is active, you have reduced effective agility. This is easy to test out in space.

Also, the mass penalty is an important part of the calculation to determine your mwd/ab speed. The calculation is something like this

Top MWD speed = (top base velocity) * { 1 + [ ( listed boost % on module ) * ( Thrust / ( Ship Mass + Mass Penalty ) ) ] }

An example of this is t1 and faction frigs (in particular the dramiel). They have much less mass than assault frigates and get a much higher speed boost from prop mods. This is also why adding armor plates reduces the mwd speed without reducing the base speed. This also explains why cruisers get mwd-sized speed boosts from 100mn ABs. People often ignore the mass of ships when looking at their stats, but you can get some good insight comparing the masses of ships in the same class.

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Texty
State War Academy
Caldari State
#29 - 2013-03-05 06:04:00 UTC
Tsai Ashitaka wrote:
EM footprint means sig radius.

It does NOTHING to your EM resist. It makes you 5 times bigger, that's all.

Isn't that 6 times?
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