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A MODEST PROPOSAL; to ensure that Ungentlemanly Combat is no longer a Burden upon the Publick

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Poetic Stanziel
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2013-02-28 01:31:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Poetic Stanziel
Cover Artwork for A Modest Proposal

It is of great distress to all space-ship capsuleers to find all manner of wrecks and debris littering our passages between star systems, at the undocking locales of our space stations, and in the industrial asteroid fields that help to prop up the wealth of our nations.

It is a mindless and senseless violence that has re-captured the hearts and minds of our space-faring population. We move inexorably towards barbarism. This truth fills with a deep melancholy any gentleman or lady who thinks too hard upon where it is we are headed as a grand population, whether we be of Amarr, Caldari, Gallente, or Minmatar persuasion.

I think it is agreed by all parties that ungentlemanly combats must be curtailed. We must actively work to reverse the deplorable direction in which our kingdoms are heading. We cannot let ourselves drift into another age of anarchy, war, and disarray.

Ten thousand years ago, during the dark times after the EVE Gate extinguished herself, we were at the very brink of extinction. We persevered, looked into our souls and saw our own light. Through our tenacity to survive we pulled ourselves from the last dark age of Humanity. We struggled through the Age of Expansion, always threatening to falter, but our inner light sustained us. Civilization did eventually take root and we turned anarchy into order. Contact between the four peoples were re-established. Now we walk in the light of the Empyrean Age and there is much promise. As far as we have come, there is still farther yet to travel. The Empyrean Age is only a promise. As much as the firm hands of law and order guide us, we must be ever-vigilant that we do not once again slip toward our dark past.

Greed, avarice, vainglory, wrath: these are some of Humanity's least desirable base instincts. These dominated the spirit of Men during our descent into that dark age. Temperance, charity, kindness, humility: these are some of Humanity's more desirable aspects. These were the qualities of Men that pulled us from the pit. As Men we have the unique ability to recognize these aspects within ourselves, to fetter them or to let them be unconstrained. Where we do not have the strength to suppress our more sinful desires, we have laws and threats of punishment. Law and order is a reminder that some Men are weak.

As to my own part, I have turned my thoughts to this important subject for many years. How do we continue, how do we ensure the survival of Humanity, how do we ensure that we do not slip into the darknesses that hide in the souls of Men? We still stand at a precipice. As many schemes as I have weighed regarding an assured future for ourselves into the light, I have eventually come to put my faith in a single idea.

I shall now therefore humbly propose my own thoughts, which I hope will not be liable to the least objection.

I do therefore humbly offer it to public consideration that all combats unbecoming to Gentlemen be made forfeit across all known space. The purview of CONCORD must be expanded, from the inner sanctum of our known space to the very outer rim. Unbidden conflicts must be diminished and eventually eliminated. We must extend greater powers upon Crowd Control Productions, that subsidiary of CONCORD with power to expand the domain in which CONCORD operates, to create new laws upon which order can prosper. These men of Crowd Control Productions are a highly regarded group of scholars and theologians, and we must put our trust in them to guide us through this Empyrean Age, toward a greater future for Humanity. These men trade in goodwill. Let our goodwill be their profit.

It is known by Science that Men will come into conflict with other Men, that these disagreements are inevitable by their very nature. I do not suggest to the careful reader that all conflict be eliminated, as Science has proven that to be an impossibility. What can be accomplished is that conflict be regulated and controlled, that a safe and reasonable outlet for aggression be made available to the publick. We already witness this in high security space, where aggrievements between corporations and alliances are resolved through CONCORD's war conventions. We already witness that quarrels between individuals are resolved through CONCORD's dueling charter. This is how Gentlemen resolve their differences, through legally-binding contests governed by rule of law.

We must bring the low and null security areas of space to heel. These environs pose a threat, a slippery slope back toward the dark age of our past. The depravity of men preying upon men, coalitions preying upon coalitions, where Greed rules hearts and minds, these must be eliminated with all due haste. These areas of our empires are a Cancer that will spread uncontrolled if we do not take prompt measure immediately.

It is true that arguments are made in favour of the status quo, that no evidence exists to suggest that settling conflict in ruthless manners will inevitably lead us down any dark paths. The agents of the New Order would present their own attestations that conflict governed by law would actually move capsuleers from the space-faring businesses to more staid employments like taxidermy or accountancy. They suggest that my treatise on the subject would in actuality do more harm than good, that a depopulation of the space-faring trades would hurt the progress of Humanity.

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Poetic Stanziel
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2013-02-28 01:31:45 UTC
I beg to differ on that account very strongly. Engaging in industrial pursuits has proven to be a very rewarding past-time for a great many capsuleers, and I feel that as conflicts are reduced, that men will gradually gravitate to these pursuits, quite happily and with much enthusiasm. Asteroid, ice, and gas mining is known far and wide as a noble occupation, and one that engages fully of a man's intellect.

Beyond the employment of industry, there are threats to our Empires that cannot be levelled by law alone. There are Men who suckle on the teet of depravity. I speak of the pirates and brigands of our known outer-space, barely-men who call themselves Gurista, Serpentis, Angel, Blood Raider, or Sansha. To move our capsuleers away from their own imagined conflicts with each other and toward a greater good in eliminating piracy, there is no higher calling. This is the most honourable activity that men can engage.

Those who speak against my plans would advocate that the menace of piracy is but a night-time tale to scare children. The threat they pose exists only in the literature of propaganda. That a pursuit against piracy cannot supply meaningful long-term occupation, and would be nothing more than a mere avocation. This would result in decimation of the capsuleer populace.

There are further whispers in dark corridors of areas of space beyond the reach of our Empires, mysterious places where new corporations have laid down their business. There is already word that movement in capsuleers to these dark regions has already begun. One hears of these corporations, with names such as Blizzard Industrial, BioWare Genetics, UbiSoft Technology, and Bluehole, already luring capsuleers with the promises of new challenges and excitements, of new frontiers to conquer. Persons of a desponding spirit, such as those agents of the New Order, would argue that encapsulating the conflict of Mankind under the rule of law and order will only drive capsuleers to these new frontiers with increasing haste. The Imagination of Man is driven by conflict, and by attempts to stymie conflict, you drive Human Imagination elsewhere. I decry this as unnecessary alarmist rhetoric.

A very worthy person, a true lover of his empire, and whose virtues I would highly esteem would accept graciously the challenges around him. He would endeavour to improve not only his own lot in life, but the lots of those around him. He would enjoy the simple pleasures of an asteroid mining operation, or ridding a constellation of a Sansha incursion. He would recognize his worth to his empire and would have no need to seek out conflicts with fellow citizens. As a gentleman he would aspire to virtue over vice.

I profess, in the sincerity of my heart, that I have not the least personal interest in endeavouring to promote this necessary work, having no other motive than the public good of the Empires, by advancing our trade, our welfare, and our security. All one needs is the prodding of a Pointy Stick to understand the true value of the Gentleman's way of life.

The End
Tah'ris Khlador
Space Ghosts.
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#3 - 2013-02-28 01:38:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Tah'ris Khlador
Isn't there a forum section for roleplay / lore creation?

EDIT: And by roleplay, I mean outside of the norm because this is obviously a space-farer roleplaying game with lots of meta.

Member of the Pink Pony Killboard Padding Alliance

ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#4 - 2013-02-28 01:44:21 UTC
Jade Constantine's posts were more entertaining and succinct than yours Poetic.
Clara Stewart
Stewart Collections
#5 - 2013-02-28 01:48:10 UTC
What is this
Poetic Stanziel
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2013-02-28 01:49:42 UTC
Clara Stewart wrote:
What is this
Satire.
Poetic Stanziel
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2013-02-28 01:50:41 UTC
Tah'ris Khlador wrote:
Isn't there a forum section for roleplay / lore creation?

EDIT: And by roleplay, I mean outside of the norm because this is obviously a space-farer roleplaying game with lots of meta.
Fair point.



ShahFluffers wrote:
Jade Constantine's posts were more entertaining and succinct than yours Poetic.
You're an ingrate, a mouth-breather, and a neck-beard, though.
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2013-02-28 01:51:47 UTC
In ten thousand years, you'd think we'd learn to spell better instead of reverting to old English.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104

Hrothgar Nilsson
#9 - 2013-02-28 02:01:48 UTC
Clara Stewart wrote:
What is this

No idea, but I give it a few hours before riverini re-pastes it on EN24.
No More Heroes
Boomer Humor
Snuffed Out
#10 - 2013-02-28 02:07:21 UTC
Gas thread ban OP

.

ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#11 - 2013-02-28 02:29:56 UTC  |  Edited by: ShahFluffers
Poetic Stanziel wrote:
ShahFluffers wrote:
Jade Constantine's posts were more entertaining and succinct than yours Poetic.
You're an ingrate, a mouth-breather, and a neck-beard, though.

Have I hit a nerve? Smile
Poetic Stanziel
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2013-02-28 02:39:46 UTC
ShahFluffers wrote:
Poetic Stanziel wrote:
ShahFluffers wrote:
Jade Constantine's posts were more entertaining and succinct than yours Poetic.
You're an ingrate, a mouth-breather, and a neck-beard, though.
Have I hit a nerve? Smile
Only my ulnar nerve.
stoicfaux
#13 - 2013-02-28 02:55:29 UTC
The EVE PvP Ordinance of Secession

We hold as undeniable truths that the Developers of the various MMOs, and of EVE itself, were established exclusively by the L33t PvP'ing race, for themselves and their posterity; that the Carebear race had no agency in their establishment; that they were rightfully held and regarded as an inferior and dependent race, and in that condition only could their existence in this MMO be rendered beneficial or tolerable.

That in this free community all l33t PvP'ers are and of right ought to be entitled to equal civil and political rights; that the servitude of the Carebear race, as existing in these MMOs, is mutually beneficial to both gankee and ganker, and is abundantly authorized and justified by the experience of mankind, and the revealed will of the Lord Britain, as recognized by all L33t Players; while the destruction of the existing relations between the two races, as advocated by our sectional enemies, would bring inevitable calamities upon both and desolation upon the many PvP-holding MMOs. By the secession of many of the PvP-centric MMOs, and the certainty that others will speedily do likewise, EVE has no alternative but to remain in an isolated connection with WoW, or unite her destinies with the L33t.

For these and other reasons, solemnly asserting that the Gamer-Developer agreement has been violated and virtually abrogated by the several MMOs named, seeing that CCP is now passing under the control of bean counters to be diverted from the exalted PvP'ing of its creation to those of oppression and wrong, and realizing that our own Player-base can no longer look for protection, but to God and her own sons - We the delegates of the people of EVE, in Convention assembled, have passed an ordinance dissolving all political connection with the management of CCP and the people thereof and confidently appeal to the intelligence and patriotism of the PvP'ers of EVE to ratify the same at the ballot box, at the 8th convening of the CSM.

Pon Farr Memorial: once every 7 years, all the carebears in high-sec must PvP or they will be temp-banned.

Ris Dnalor
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2013-02-28 03:32:26 UTC
Poetic Stanziel wrote:
well-written stuff


was an enjoyable read, well done. Twisted

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=118961

EvE = Everybody Vs. Everybody

  • Qolde
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#15 - 2013-02-28 03:54:05 UTC
No More Heroes wrote:
Gas thread ban OP

Fix Lag
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2013-02-28 04:03:59 UTC
ShahFluffers wrote:
Jade Constantine's posts were more entertaining and succinct than yours Poetic.


That's harsh.

CCP mostly sucks at their job, but Veritas is a pretty cool dude.

Milton Middleson
Rifterlings
#17 - 2013-02-28 04:29:08 UTC
Poetic Stanziel wrote:
Clara Stewart wrote:
What is this
Satire.


Satire is traditionally funny, or at least clever.
Poetic Stanziel
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2013-02-28 04:33:35 UTC
Milton Middleson wrote:
Poetic Stanziel wrote:
Clara Stewart wrote:
What is this
Satire.
Satire is traditionally funny, or at least clever.
I just wanted to help you become the cliché you always wanted to be. You may now continue to post on the EVE-O forums.
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#19 - 2013-02-28 07:05:15 UTC
No More Heroes wrote:
Gas thread ban OP

I think you got that backwards.
Sergeant major Axterd
State War Academy
Caldari State
#20 - 2013-02-28 07:10:44 UTC
TL;DR : YES !

"THAT SENTENCE HAD TOO MANY SYLLABLES ! APOLOGIZE !"

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