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CONCORD should charge for their services.

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Ris Dnalor
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2013-02-27 06:50:45 UTC
it's only fair.

It's an isk-sink.

1.0 systems could be cheaper, and 0.5 systems more expensive to represent appropriate deployment costs.

Billing could be a base fee, plus modifications for value of ships destroyed in teh process of protecting the innocent, modified by the above divisor.

CONCORD should simply refuse to protect folks that don't pay the bill.

yes? P

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  • Qolde
EI Digin
irc.zulusquad.org
#2 - 2013-02-27 06:54:23 UTC
I have a better idea

Let's make it so that you can spend ISK to let CONCORD look the other way if you shoot certain groups of people.
BadAssMcKill
Aliastra
#3 - 2013-02-27 06:56:20 UTC
You must be one of those people who believe we should pay so the police/fire department come to our homes irl
Ris Dnalor
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2013-02-27 07:01:26 UTC
BadAssMcKill wrote:
You must be one of those people who believe we should pay so the police/fire department come to our homes irl


well i suppose that's what taxes are for, but that's not nearly so much a fun idea for an internet spaceships game, where's the drama!!?!

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Super spikinator
Hegemonous Conscripts
#5 - 2013-02-27 07:07:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Super spikinator
BadAssMcKill wrote:
You must be one of those people who believe we should pay so the police/fire department come to our homes irl


I pay a district, regional and national tax for those services! That being said, technically some capsuleers do pay concord. Since concord is like the UN as it should be, by paying the 11% npc tax npc corp players are paying by proxy. It is the one man corps and so on that aren't paying for concord - they're a bunch of tax dodging freeloaders who get all the protection of concord without paying into the system at any level where concord is paid from. dang nammit!

edit: added a comma
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#6 - 2013-02-27 07:12:29 UTC
So... the best service package is the cheapest? What?

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RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#7 - 2013-02-27 07:14:16 UTC
BadAssMcKill wrote:
You must be one of those people who believe we should pay so the police/fire department come to our homes irl


Who do you think pays them? Mystical money fountains at the end of rainbows?

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Luc Chastot
#8 - 2013-02-27 07:14:18 UTC
EI Digin wrote:
I have a better idea

Let's make it so that you can spend ISK to let CONCORD look the other way if you shoot certain groups of people.


What should we call such game mechanic? Something with "war" sounds appropriate.

Make it idiot-proof and someone will make a better idiot.

Red Frog Rufen
Red Frog Freight
Red-Frog
#9 - 2013-02-27 15:17:06 UTC
Super spikinator wrote:
BadAssMcKill wrote:
You must be one of those people who believe we should pay so the police/fire department come to our homes irl


I pay a district, regional and national tax for those services! That being said, technically some capsuleers do pay concord. Since concord is like the UN as it should be, by paying the 11% npc tax npc corp players are paying by proxy. It is the one man corps and so on that aren't paying for concord - they're a bunch of tax dodging freeloaders who get all the protection of concord without paying into the system at any level where concord is paid from. dang nammit!

edit: added a comma


well, they do pay taxes via other things (when you buy from the market, your seller pay taxes that come out of the price you paid)
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#10 - 2013-02-27 15:29:34 UTC
Agreed! Whenever you cause CONCORD to show up, they not only pop your ship, they also send you a bill for it. After all, it's the aggressor's fault that they need to come around and not the poor sod's that just got attacked.

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Yusef Yeasef Yosef
Doomheim
#11 - 2013-02-27 15:32:46 UTC
Concord does get paid.

What do you think the NPC Corp tax is for?
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#12 - 2013-02-27 15:35:01 UTC
Yusef Yeasef Yosef wrote:
Concord does get paid.

What do you think the NPC Corp tax is for?



The NPC corp.
Whitehound
#13 - 2013-02-27 15:36:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Whitehound
The mission rewards, bonuses and LPs of the NPC corporations are cut off at a limit, which depends on the security status. One gets on average more ISKs when running missions for an agent in a 0.5 system than one sitting in a 1.0 system.

So in a sense is it already happening, but not quite in the same way as described by the OP.

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Azami Nevinyrall
172.0.0.1
#14 - 2013-02-27 15:41:16 UTC
Highsec players should he charged a daily tax for their services, if they don't pay then they get reduced and delayed services...

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Sentamon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#15 - 2013-02-27 15:49:38 UTC
Paying for mercenaries? Sign me up.

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Felicity Love
Doomheim
#16 - 2013-02-27 15:59:48 UTC
I'd prefer to see CONCORD just pig out on donuts for a few days and not show up for work ... they're tired, they're over-worked... job stress is a killer, mkay ? P

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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#17 - 2013-02-27 16:03:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Krixtal Icefluxor
Ris Dnalor wrote:
it's only fair.

It's an isk-sink.

1.0 systems could be cheaper, and 0.5 systems more expensive to represent appropriate deployment costs.

Billing could be a base fee, plus modifications for value of ships destroyed in teh process of protecting the innocent, modified by the above divisor.

CONCORD should simply refuse to protect folks that don't pay the bill.

yes? P


YES. I support this. A 50M ISK or so monthly payment or CONCORD won't respond (mmmmmm.....maybe taking effect after 6 months from character creation).


EDIT: This is the most interesting idea I've seen tossed out there in a LONG time. One is also flagged as to not having paid up.

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Skorpynekomimi
#18 - 2013-02-27 16:27:53 UTC
Super spikinator wrote:
BadAssMcKill wrote:
You must be one of those people who believe we should pay so the police/fire department come to our homes irl


I pay a district, regional and national tax for those services! That being said, technically some capsuleers do pay concord. Since concord is like the UN as it should be, by paying the 11% npc tax npc corp players are paying by proxy. It is the one man corps and so on that aren't paying for concord - they're a bunch of tax dodging freeloaders who get all the protection of concord without paying into the system at any level where concord is paid from. dang nammit!

edit: added a comma


But we already pay tax to be protected by CONCORD and get access to stations and gates and stuff. What do you think your subscription pays for?
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March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2013-02-27 16:29:18 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Ris Dnalor wrote:
it's only fair.

It's an isk-sink.

1.0 systems could be cheaper, and 0.5 systems more expensive to represent appropriate deployment costs.

Billing could be a base fee, plus modifications for value of ships destroyed in teh process of protecting the innocent, modified by the above divisor.

CONCORD should simply refuse to protect folks that don't pay the bill.

yes? P


YES. I support this. A 50M ISK or so monthly payment or CONCORD won't respond (mmmmmm.....maybe taking effect after 6 months from character creation).


EDIT: This is the most interesting idea I've seen tossed out there in a LONG time. One is also flagged as to not having paid up.

i have more interesting idea.



nope. it's really interesting!



What about monthly payment for ~500 millions? If you don't pay CONCORD does not protect you. I would go farther! Without this payment CONCORD prevents you from logging into the game!

oh... wait..... Shocked

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Vincent Athena
Photosynth
#20 - 2013-02-27 16:37:37 UTC
Ris Dnalor wrote:
it's only fair.

It's an isk-sink.

1.0 systems could be cheaper, and 0.5 systems more expensive to represent appropriate deployment costs.

Billing could be a base fee, plus modifications for value of ships destroyed in teh process of protecting the innocent, modified by the above divisor.

CONCORD should simply refuse to protect folks that don't pay the bill.

yes? P

And of course it should be the attacker that pays. And if his wallet goes negative, he cannot board a ship other than a shuttle until its positive.

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