EVE General Discussion

move to high-sec and live in beautiful place. It's free

I think you're underestimating the power of the 1%.

Lol... Just stop there.

Ever heard of working with other people? Make friends with the "pirates"? Or bring your own friends? Or, bring a scout to make sure you don't jump into a gate camp?

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This is completely and totally the reason Low Sec SUCKED for almost 5 years.

You can't make low sec "safer" to make it better. Just like making Null sec "Safer" doesn't make it better null sec.

The issue is giving people incentives to look at Low Sec as a "better" way to get what you want with the trade off of requiring more cooperation.

So, yes, you can get what you want in Low Sec "Better, Cheaper, etc" but you need to work together to accomplish that goal.

You don't need that much incentive to get people to want to accomplish that, it just takes a few small perks to get them to see that the few that ARE able to do it in low sec are getting big advantages over them in high sec.

More Straw Men Arguments. This isn't about boosting Low Sec. It's about offsetting the ease of life in High Sec with higher taxes to instigate more opportunities in other places that may not be as appealing for other reasons.

Nerfing the gate guns has improved low sec life 500%. The ability to enforce your space without massive constant 15 minutes of punishment, has made low sec less safe, but also more appealing to those who want to live and PVP there.

This isnt' about "boosting" low sec, this is about rebalancing the idea of no infrastructure costs in high sec with slightly higher taxes to make people realize there is a cost of doing business easily.

I don't see any harm in raising Hisec taxes. Fact is, traders being what they are, they will try anything to make a profit, and if it works they'll do more of it. You're not going to see a Jita pop-up, and you likely won't see a trade hub appear anywhere overnight, but you will see a marginal increase of volume of goods traded through lowsec.

You will also see Highsec prices spike to compensate for taxes, which will make the lowsec trading more viable and give a greater degree of difference in costs between the two. You won't see any smart traders try to profit off the difference, because if they are familiar with it, they'll know that buying and moving it will be offset by the increased taxes in Highsec.

One of the problems with EVE, is that the prices are already at less than 1% margins nearly across the entirety of the EVE cluster for some items, and almost certainly for all of them in any trade hub. That doesn't usually occur in a complete system, mostly due to differences in taxes on all levels, availability, international trade agreements, and all manner of other things that will influence this. Not even mentioning differences in local economies.

EVE is very nearly one economy. It is the same from one end of it to the other, with some exception for Nulsec, but that is offset by a complete lack of stations outside of NPC null, except for those owned by players which are inaccessible anyway. Risk is irrelevant to this equation, except where it determines if something is feasible to acquire if it is on the market.

The greatest potential benefit here will be to buyers of course, as these changes will mean that some items will appear outside of highsec at lower prices for them. If they have no intention of reselling then this benefits them. Whether or not they are willing to go and get it will determine its value to them.

It's pretty simple math, but yes, any trade hub in lowsec will be camped if it appears. More items on various markets there will be under no such influence however. Usually, if a market has much lower prices in low currently, it is because it is a lure to get players to travel there, and into the gate camp or station camp that is waiting for them. Often, after they have made the purchase, they will be at the highest risk.

Nothing like selling the same product multiple times I guess; lowers the operating costs significantly I would imagine, not to mention the effort.

As has been said by others, it isn't about just seeing more people in Low/null. It's more about the balance.

Also, I think giving buyers more control (albeit indirectly) over the market. IMO these hardcore traders are making too much isk. Make them have to think and work a little more. BTW I have a huge respect for the traders that do this, especially the ones who don't use dodgy tools (a la Eve U), and I know it does take some skill. Creating more viable markets would be a good thing.