Player Features and Ideas Discussion

…and almost none of them work like their real-world counterparts.
There is no “if” about it. They have encouraged ganking and scamming from day one. It's built into the game and explicitly allowed to make for a more cut-throat environment.
Guess what? In EVE, it is. It's that kind of game. We are not the good guys — we are a bunch of self-absorbed unkillable demigods that hold the wealth of plants and who accidentally and casually murder people in the thousands just by deciding to roll out of bed.
You're confusing in-game with out-of-game here. If you want a good, solid community, you need to reward community activities in all their forms. One such activity could be to go on an in-game killing spree. The latter is not illegal, by the way…
“Other”? Suicide ganking does not involve any abuse of bugged game mechanics, so that's a pretty flawed premise you have there…

Unfortunately simply removing the insurance payout would not stop the Goons from doing what they are doing. The Goons are very good at learning and exploiting a system to maximum. They are very intelligent ( the SA forum does not tolerate stupidity) and very dedicated. As such, the ice situation will either get worse until someone else steps in, their plan is completed, or they get bored and move on. Also I believe they are offering bounties on ice miners and you can pay them protection money. I believe it is a one time fee of 300 mil.

I am fairly certain that CCP wants some kind of conflict or danger in every part of the EVE universe. To that end there will always be ganking. If this Goon situation gets seriously worse, far worse than it is, CCP might step in and make some changes. It has happened before when CONCORD was beefed up. People were even banned. However CCP loves this kind of thing. EVE is all about player driven, and as such any player run event that stirs the pot is good in their eyes.

And now for some suggestions since you have defined the problem.

You could increase the sec status penalty for destroying a neutral or positive sec status ship. That would require a pirate to spend more time working on their standings to stay in high sec while still allowing ganking to happen. Or make it so that multiple kills within a period of time inflicts a tougher security penalty which could get exponentially worse.

Honestly though you might be better off cramming as much tank as you can into a hulk and get a couple of logistic ships to cover you while you ice mine.

As for the degradation of various in game morals, it is just the way the world is going. You put people in a situation were they can do whatever they want with no consequence, they are going to do the "bad" thing. Trolling people these days is considered a cool. EVE breeds paranoia and distrust.

Actually of the ideas for punishing criminal activities that I've read on this thread the one that appeals most to me is making security status only repairable in lo-sec. I mean these sucide gankers are supposed to be big fans of pvp, let them repair their sec status in a place where they can enjoy the h3ll out of that. It gives lo-sec a purpose, which a lot of threads say it needs, it gives pvpers a steady supply of targets which they are always whining for, it blows up more ships which makes Tippia happy, and it's a reasonable penalty for suicide ganking, see if they can fight anything besides an untanked industrial or a hulk. The insurance payout is ridiculous and should stop too, but like a lot of people say, that won't be a consideration for most gankers.

And the police in youre country, when called out to a shooting, just stands and watches as the shooting occur until the victim is dead.. or.. do they actually pull theyre weapons and opens fire, no matter the status of the victim... ?

- LB

to compensate the gankers got the tier 3 gank BC. less cost makes up for the missing insurance.