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More Regions or a Second Server?
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Nova Satar
Pator Tech School
#1 - 2013-02-25 10:16:16 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Suvetar
There must be others like me who feel that EVE just doesn't feel like it used to. No empty space to explore or quiet hunting lands to roam, it doesnt feel BIG anymore and i think a game set in space probably should.... It's rare to find any lowsec areas with less than 10 people every other system and empire is just a big mess. Null has some space sure, but you can't get to it without having to go through some massively congested areas so that argument is non exsistant.

I'd be surprised if those who remember the servers at 35,000 max would say it's better now at 60,000...

The question is, could extra regions help this, or could there even be the possibility of a second server?

Edit: Snipped foul language; please don't use profanity, it's against the rules. ISD Suvetar
Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
#2 - 2013-02-25 10:16:56 UTC
Nova Satar wrote:
could there even be the possibility of a second server?
No.

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Jint Hikaru
OffWorld Exploration Inc
#3 - 2013-02-25 10:17:06 UTC
Nova Satar wrote:
or could there even be the possibility of a second server?



Hell NO.

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Nova Satar
Pator Tech School
#4 - 2013-02-25 10:18:37 UTC
Crumplecorn wrote:
Nova Satar wrote:
could there even be the possibility of a second server?
No.


Why?
Snow Axe
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2013-02-25 10:23:17 UTC
Nova Satar wrote:
Why?


Single-shard game is one of the greatest things Eve has going for it. Second (or more) servers would just dilute the playerbase and make everything less interesting.

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Tub Chil
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#6 - 2013-02-25 10:24:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Tub Chil
Nova Satar wrote:
Crumplecorn wrote:
Nova Satar wrote:
could there even be the possibility of a second server?
No.


Why?

because single server is good?

edit:
have you been to lowsec outside of FW area? or nullsec? how is eve universe full?
Buhhdust Princess
Mind Games.
#7 - 2013-02-25 10:24:38 UTC
The possibility of more lowsec/0.0 regions would make me kinda excited tbh. But, a second server? Definitely not.
Nova Satar
Pator Tech School
#8 - 2013-02-25 10:27:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Nova Satar
Snow Axe wrote:
Nova Satar wrote:
Why?


Single-shard game is one of the greatest things Eve has going for it. Second (or more) servers would just dilute the playerbase and make everything less interesting.


Agreed, but eventually it could be exactly the same as it is now, but across two servers? What i'm saying is, if numbers continue to grow and TQ is kept as is, it's surely going to reach a point where something needs to happen.

Also, what would peoples thoughts be on more regions, and i don;t mean one more fw region like before, what if the universe doubled in size??
Ivy Romanova
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#9 - 2013-02-25 10:30:44 UTC
No.

Your region is too populated .
Explore lonely regions in low sec and null.
Its quite dead there

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Meghel
SilfMeg Mining and Transportation Co
#10 - 2013-02-25 10:30:47 UTC
Nova Satar wrote:
There must be others like me who feel that EVE just doesn't feel like it used to. No empty space to explore or quiet hunting lands to roam, it doesnt feel BIG anymore and i think a game set in space probably should.... It's rare to find any lowsec areas with less than 10 people every other system and empire is just a clusterfuck. Null has some space sure, but you can't get to it without having to go through some massively congested areas so that argument is non exsistant.

I'd be surprised if those who remember the servers at 35,000 max would say it's better now at 60,000...

The question is, could extra regions help this, or could there even be the possibility of a second server?


More regions would help but it would need a through rethinking about the mechanics and things to do in High-, Low- and Null Sec. Else it will be just a very temporary solution.

You could add new regions, change the Sec-Status of Low Sec areas to High Sec, Null-Sec to Low-Sec and it might alleviate the problem a bit.

Since I am a nullbear I dont have any problems with the higher player base.
Although I did some small forays into lowsec (mostly exploration) which were quite fun.
And some Null-Sec visits for Live Events (which mostly cost me my ship)
But for me, there is not much in Low Sec and Null Sec that interest me at all.

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A Second Server would be a bad idea as the basic premise of Eve is a Big Sandbox.
Everything affects everything else.

Your first idea has merit, the second one does not.
Nova Satar
Pator Tech School
#11 - 2013-02-25 10:33:56 UTC
Ivy Romanova wrote:
No.

Your region is too populated .
Explore lonely regions in low sec and null.
Its quite dead there


I don't have a region lol..... I play everywhere and assure you nowhere is dead in low-sec, and the few places that are dead in null are dead for a reason, and inaccessible without the very blob many of us are trying to avoid.
Schmata Bastanold
In Boobiez We Trust
#12 - 2013-02-25 10:36:18 UTC
Eve isn't dying.

Oh, wait...

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Ohishi
Apocalypse Reign
#13 - 2013-02-25 10:37:29 UTC
Nova Satar wrote:
Ivy Romanova wrote:
No.

Your region is too populated .
Explore lonely regions in low sec and null.
Its quite dead there


I don't have a region lol..... I play everywhere and assure you nowhere is dead in low-sec, and the few places that are dead in null are dead for a reason, and inaccessible without the very blob many of us are trying to avoid.

There are lots of dead low sec areas.

Do not seek to follow in the footsteps of the wise. Seek what they sought.

Nova Satar
Pator Tech School
#14 - 2013-02-25 10:38:40 UTC
Ohishi wrote:

There are lots of dead low sec areas.


Name one?
Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
#15 - 2013-02-25 10:39:10 UTC
More space sure, another server not so much.

Though the problem with more space is, that the current isn't that great. So they should really improve upon what they already have before adding more.

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Ohishi
Apocalypse Reign
#16 - 2013-02-25 10:40:31 UTC
Nova Satar wrote:
Ohishi wrote:

There are lots of dead low sec areas.


Name one?

Miroona.

Do not seek to follow in the footsteps of the wise. Seek what they sought.

Nova Satar
Pator Tech School
#17 - 2013-02-25 10:42:24 UTC
Brooks Puuntai wrote:
More space sure, another server not so much.

Though the problem with more space is, that the current isn't that great. So they should really improve upon what they already have before adding more.


Yup, it throws up the whole issue of what does lowsec have to offer anyway, which highlights the overcrowded issue even more. Lowsec is crammed with people who gain nothing from it, other than a bit of pvp which is becoming more and more blob based by the day, because of the overcrowding.

Lowsec is like some sort of UN refugee camp on the outskirts of a conflict zone with more and more people crammed into a small area with little to do or gain from it, other than just being there.
Nova Satar
Pator Tech School
#18 - 2013-02-25 10:44:55 UTC
Ohishi wrote:
Nova Satar wrote:
Ohishi wrote:

There are lots of dead low sec areas.


Name one?

Miroona.


Miroona isn't a region, it's a system. It's a land locked system surrounded by high. The region is Kor-Azor which is most definitely not quiet. Fly yourself through the main bulk of it tonight and i assure you that you will die a horrible ECM based death.
Dante Uisen
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#19 - 2013-02-25 10:46:04 UTC
Nova Satar wrote:
It's rare to find any lowsec areas with less than 10 people every other system and empire is just a clusterfuck. Null has some space sure, but you can't get to it without having to go through some massively congested areas so that argument is non exsistant.


I sometimes get the same feeling, but you have to remember that Eve is not a single player game.
monkfish2345
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#20 - 2013-02-25 10:49:42 UTC
There really is no need for more space at all.

Take some time to look on the map and set it to active pilots in last 30 mins..... Most of 0.0 is empty.

this isn;t some new revelation it's always been like this, and is the reason why people aren't crying about the need for more space.

the problem is the sov mechanics at the moment allow alliances to control huge expanses of space even if the do not need/use it.

It's fairly apparent by now that the changes made to Sov didn't achieve what they had initially hoped with Ihubs etc. but it shows CCP are aware there is a problem, it's just complex to fix.

the ideal is that an alliance hold say 10 systems. and each system can comfortably provide for anywhere upto 100 people, if not more, but at the same time, there has to be a sensible way to discourage alliances owning 100 systems like this and spreading their population because it is more efficient.

the obvious answers of exponential cost per system owned isn;t really suitable, because this just causes alliances to fragment and become informal coalitions. so the CSM and CCP need to try and think up something a bit more robust.

As far as i'm aware it's still one of the top items on their agenda as nobody is happy with Sov really. once we come to some better way of working this expect 0.0 to become more interesting, and hopefully a little more populous.

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