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What are gallente known for?.
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Tanya Powers
Doomheim
#41 - 2011-10-13 15:22:42 UTC
Ilkahn wrote:
Gallente actually have many great ships. The issue is that as stated by others, you needs skills due to your DPS being coupled with drones.

The real issue for gallente is that they are not considered FOTM at the moment so nobody is actively attempting to develop tactics that fit the ship designs as they are at the moment. I do concur that gallente gun ships are not on par with other racial gun ships and something needs done to fix gallente as a whole, however, i enjoy the challenge of being different. I'm heavily trained in rails and gallente so when they do become FOTM one day i'll be one of the guys popping capital ships in one shot for 24 hours till CCP nerfs their initial gallente / railgun update LOL.


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Kengutsi Akira
Doomheim
#42 - 2011-10-13 15:40:47 UTC
Thorn Galen wrote:
You know, this is pathetic.
The Op posts a decent question and the ******* forum trolls are here instantly, with nothing but **** to offer. You know who you are. If you do not have something constructive or informative to offer to what is a decent question, GTFO.

Really, this forum needs the Mods to gouge-out the trolls who hijack threads by posting utter bullshit.


yeah... theyd have to actually start you know, moderating in more than words.

"Is it fair that CCP can get away with..." :: checks ownership on the box ::

Yes
Cyniac
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#43 - 2011-10-13 15:49:46 UTC
When it comes to combat Gallente boil down to basically two things:

1) Versatile drone ships - they are good in most situations but are seldom best in class for any specific situation (this is not necessarily a bad thing though, versatility is an asset)

2) Do-or-die mentality needed to fly blasterboats. When a gallente blaster boat engages in combat there are only two possible outcomes, victory or going down in a ball of fire.


As it happens the do-or-die thing is not terribly popular around here, but if you like that kind of thing, and don't mind a very painful learning curve, you might enjoy Gallente.
Kirith Vespira
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#44 - 2011-10-13 15:50:13 UTC
Gallente are known for really crappy weapons that only noobs and cheap people use.

kthxbye
Trainwreck McGee
Doomheim
#45 - 2011-10-13 15:54:05 UTC
Thorn Galen wrote:
You know, this is pathetic.
The Op posts a decent question and the ******* forum trolls are here instantly, with nothing but **** to offer. You know who you are. If you do not have something constructive or informative to offer to what is a decent question, GTFO.

Really, this forum needs the Mods to gouge-out the trolls who hijack threads by posting utter bullshit.


you know your post has no content either right? stop QQ about trolls its annoying just ******* ignore them

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InVictus Kell
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#46 - 2011-10-13 15:59:55 UTC
our exotic dancers are by far the bestest. our STD's are the funnest to get.

our carriers look the best after ramming into enemy stations.

and our ships give everyone else penis envy.

oh and we have drones and blasters, they're kinda cool...if you can peel away from the strippers and quafe.
Kengutsi Akira
Doomheim
#47 - 2011-10-13 16:08:17 UTC
Trainwreck McGee wrote:
Thorn Galen wrote:
You know, this is pathetic.
The Op posts a decent question and the ******* forum trolls are here instantly, with nothing but **** to offer. You know who you are. If you do not have something constructive or informative to offer to what is a decent question, GTFO.

Really, this forum needs the Mods to gouge-out the trolls who hijack threads by posting utter bullshit.


you know your post has no content either right? stop QQ about trolls its annoying just ******* ignore them


Yeah cause the mods sure arent gonna do anything about it...

"Is it fair that CCP can get away with..." :: checks ownership on the box ::

Yes
Demon Azrakel
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#48 - 2011-10-13 16:15:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Demon Azrakel
VaMei wrote:

Fitting your ship should involve serious choices. Having ships where you can simply pick the best in class for each module and expect it to fit with power/grid/cpu to spare, that's what's broken.

*cough* Rupture Hurricane Maelstrom *cough*
David Grogan
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#49 - 2011-10-13 20:33:17 UTC  |  Edited by: David Grogan
Zoe Alarhun wrote:
Gallente ships actually arn't to bad at PVP at all. I've been flying their ships and I've found the following to work well:


Cruisers:

Vexor - Rack of guns or neuts combined with bonused drones makes for a versatile ship.
Thorax - 1 trick poney, fly up and shoot you in the face. If you get used to the do or die style of flying in this ship it does STUPID amounts of dps for a T1 cruiser. .


the big problem with the thorax is since the nano nerf (scrams shutting off mwd) it made the mwd bonus on the thorax useless. The same flaw applies to both the t2 variants, phobos and deimos


A possible fix would be to replace the mwd bonus with an afterbuner bonus and increase the base speed of the thorax + t2 variants by 20%

Zoe Alarhun wrote:

Battlecruisers:

Myrmidon is awesome especially with 2 or even 3 reps.
Brutix is fantastic for ganking things and bringing heavy damage in gangs.


the myrmidon is fine for the most part but being an active tanked ship could use a wee bit more capacitor

the brutix suffers the same problems as the thorax.... its too slow n heavy and with nano nerf the mwd is useless most of the time

A possible fix for the brutix would be to reduce it's mass slightly so afterburners would have more use on it

Zoe Alarhun wrote:

Battleships:

Dominix - Neut fit with a swarm of drones, remore repair or pure gank. Very versatile.



dominix could use a tiny bit more powergrid to make it better for fitting

the megathron and hyperion again suffer the same issues with the nano nerf (scrams killing mwd) also the hyperion needs better tracking and bigger capacitor and the megathron needs more powergrid and more capacitor.... either that or hybrids need to use less capacitor.

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Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#50 - 2011-10-13 20:52:47 UTC
afterburners on a thorax / brutix = FAIL. the ship uses blasters. you don't keep your MWD running once youre in scram range, you point, web, and turn them into debris. a MWD lets you actually catch your target and ruin it. an afterburner? utterly useless for the role the ship fills, as you will *never* catch a MWDing ship of any class, while they pummel you to dust with their longer-range weapons. and pretty much every single pvp ship is going to have a MWD fit unless its some sort of highsec "pvp" fit.
Commander Spurty
#51 - 2011-10-13 21:00:59 UTC
Caldari = first 1/2 mill skill points in missiles gets you running missions for ISK, PVE
Gallent = Ultimate PVE races, drones have no ammo

Now you are up to about 10mill sp so you jump over to

AMARR = laz0rs are ammo less (t1) and you learn the art of tanking and PVP starts here
Minmitar = projectiles and millions of support skills needed, terrible tanks, need skills to PVP

So, Gallente are to start off anyways, the 2nd race everyony should pick if they didn't pick it as their first race.

Once you have all 4, you move to pirate ships which are composite of two races.

Why is this a mystery to you ?

Why are you *stuck* on gallente so much?

Seriously, they have their place.

There are good ships,

And wood ships,

And ships that sail the sea

But the best ships are Spaceships

Built by CCP
Infinimo
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#52 - 2011-10-13 21:10:18 UTC
being ****

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Sorran Tor
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#53 - 2011-10-13 21:46:00 UTC
BLACK-STAR wrote:
I never understood this philosophy. gallente are definitely not french since the french surrendered/lost majority all wars.



Bullshit they did. Ignorant yank spotted!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_history_of_france

I find it hilarious that the French are best remembered by American mouthbreathers for being overrun by Germany in WW2, which, ironically, the United States didn't even want to be a part of, and only got dragged in kicking and screaming because Japan cocked up and attacked them.
Demon Azrakel
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#54 - 2011-10-13 21:47:42 UTC
Spurty wrote:

Gallent = Ultimate PVE races, drones have no ammo


Really? Drones do not an awesome PvE boat make (exception provided to dropping drones and grabbing something to eat and maybe reading a book).

Don't want ammo? Use Amarr ships (and out-damage the Dominix / Myrmidon / Ishtar). Want damage selection? Use Minmitar ships or Caldari (and out-damage the drone boats again, the only damage selection Gallente can do). Want to actually run missions quickly? Fly a NM, CNR, Golem, or Macharial. Want into incursion fleets? Fly the Loki, Guardian, Scimitar, Basilisk, Nightmare, Bhaalgorn, Vindicator, or Macharial.

Bolded the (good) PvE boats that were Gallente (if only in part).

Oh, I see, you meant the Thanatos and Nyx for ratting in null... forgot those two.
Commander Spurty
#55 - 2011-10-13 21:49:15 UTC
Sov map year 481AD

There are good ships,

And wood ships,

And ships that sail the sea

But the best ships are Spaceships

Built by CCP
Sorran Tor
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#56 - 2011-10-13 21:51:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Sorran Tor
Demon Azrakel wrote:
Don't want ammo? Use Amarr ships (and out-damage the Dominix / Myrmidon / Ishtar).


...and be stuck dealing EM damage. Have fun with that outside of Amarr empire.

Quote:
Want damage selection? Use Minmitar ships or Caldari (and out-damage the drone boats again, the only damage selection Gallente can do).


lol

Domi with max skills outdamages a Raven with max skills, and Sentries have zero flight time to target. And don't need to reload. Dunno about Minmatar, but lol at the notion that minnie can pick damage types. I'm gussing you dun fly minnie.
Commander Spurty
#57 - 2011-10-13 21:52:14 UTC
Demon Azrakel wrote:
Spurty wrote:

Gallent = Ultimate PVE races, drones have no ammo


Really? Drones do not an awesome PvE boat make (exception provided to dropping drones and grabbing something to eat and maybe reading a book).

Don't want ammo? Use Amarr ships (and out-damage the Dominix / Myrmidon / Ishtar). Want damage selection? Use Minmitar ships or Caldari (and out-damage the drone boats again, the only damage selection Gallente can do). Want to actually run missions quickly? Fly a NM, CNR, Golem, or Macharial. Want into incursion fleets? Fly the Loki, Guardian, Scimitar, Basilisk, Nightmare, Bhaalgorn, Vindicator, or Macharial.

Bolded the (good) PvE boats that were Gallente (if only in part).

Oh, I see, you meant the Thanatos and Nyx for ratting in null... forgot those two.


Ishtar = best ratting ship money can buy. Not the fastest, but zero expenditure after you get your drones. just isk flowing into the wallet. no runs to jita for ammo. now, your point was what?

I bolded the funny part.

There are good ships,

And wood ships,

And ships that sail the sea

But the best ships are Spaceships

Built by CCP
Zoe Alarhun
The Proactive Reappropriation Corporation
#58 - 2011-10-14 06:45:26 UTC
David Grogan wrote:
Zoe Alarhun wrote:
Gallente ships actually arn't to bad at PVP at all. I've been flying their ships and I've found the following to work well:


Cruisers:

Vexor - Rack of guns or neuts combined with bonused drones makes for a versatile ship.
Thorax - 1 trick poney, fly up and shoot you in the face. If you get used to the do or die style of flying in this ship it does STUPID amounts of dps for a T1 cruiser. .


the big problem with the thorax is since the nano nerf (scrams shutting off mwd) it made the mwd bonus on the thorax useless. The same flaw applies to both the t2 variants, phobos and deimos


A possible fix would be to replace the mwd bonus with an afterbuner bonus and increase the base speed of the thorax + t2 variants by 20%

Zoe Alarhun wrote:

Battlecruisers:

Myrmidon is awesome especially with 2 or even 3 reps.
Brutix is fantastic for ganking things and bringing heavy damage in gangs.


the myrmidon is fine for the most part but being an active tanked ship could use a wee bit more capacitor

the brutix suffers the same problems as the thorax.... its too slow n heavy and with nano nerf the mwd is useless most of the time

A possible fix for the brutix would be to reduce it's mass slightly so afterburners would have more use on it

Zoe Alarhun wrote:

Battleships:

Dominix - Neut fit with a swarm of drones, remore repair or pure gank. Very versatile.



dominix could use a tiny bit more powergrid to make it better for fitting

the megathron and hyperion again suffer the same issues with the nano nerf (scrams killing mwd) also the hyperion needs better tracking and bigger capacitor and the megathron needs more powergrid and more capacitor.... either that or hybrids need to use less capacitor.


The Thorax MWD bonus could be better, but using a meta MWD (YS-8 ? YT -8 ?, I can never remember the name) you actually get a ton of cap back when using a MWD which is pretty sweet.

Myrm doesn't need more cap - fit 2x Cap boosters and your cap issues are solved. Either you will die or they will die but either way it's unlikely you will use all your cap boosters before your target is gone.

Brutix - shield tank it and pure damage. Again - do or die you will kill them or die gloriously.

Dominix is a Tier 1 ship and therefor has lower grid/cpu like it's counterparts. Taking that into account the hybrid buff might lower hybrid fitting requirements which could alleviate this problem.

I can't comment on the other BS as I havn't used them.
Rowena Lafayette
The Lafayette Family
#59 - 2011-10-14 08:05:11 UTC
BLACK-STAR wrote:


I never understood this philosophy. gallente are definitely not french since the french surrendered/lost majority all wars. american is not an ethnicity



The French won, among others, the American Revolution. Americans like to blabber about "manifest destiny" and forget about that. A bit like they like to think that WW1 started in 1917 and WW2 in 1942, or that the Chinese stopped for two days at the Imjin River because they were scared of the Marines retreating in a badass way.

And as an aside, American is not an ethnicity but it is beginning to look like a warning label for ignorance

The Gallente are French - culturally and politically (what language the Universal Declaration of Human Rights was originally written in? Hint, hint, like the Bible, it wasn't English); and their names are French-sounding for the most part

The Caldari, on the other hand, are Japanese - corporate state, the zaibatsu wielding political power not only de facto but de jure. If you want a Western analogy, more than today's Americans they look like Italy's fascists would have liked to be - again the accent is on the corporate nature of the State and the absolute subordination of the individuals to it
The Mittani
State War Academy
Caldari State
#60 - 2011-10-14 08:14:31 UTC
killing exhumers

~hi~