Science & Industry

- one Command Center per planet(max 6 per character)
- the resources have to be hauled with a ship between planets
- one P1 Oxygen is 0,38 m3 (20*0,38 = 7,6 m3 / 30 min) (40*0,38 = 15,2 m3 / 60 min)
- one basic facility converts 6000 R0 Raw resources into 40 P1 products per 60 min

In your setup you should match the extraction per hour vs number of basic processors. Don't forget the correct routing is:
(ECU)---(LP/Storage)----(processor)

Everything has to go 1st into the storage and from there is can be routed to basic processors.

If there is routed material available, the Basic and Advanced Processors ('factories') will run.

There is no 24/7 setup involved there. That has to do with Extraction only.

Hi all - I'm also new to the whole PI business and have another question to ask: I've got Command Centers on various planets in various systems - is there a simple UI way of keeping track of where everything is, or do i just have to write it down...? :-)

Thanks in advance...

Chel

> Gas Extractor Control Unit
> 8 extractor heads
Produces: 48,603 Noble gas per hour.

> Gas Basic Industry Facility
Produces: 20 units per cycle or 15.20 m3/hour

> Gas storage facility (to store finished product).


You will need a launch pad, that should be a big priority.

I also always stay away from gas planets. They are simply too big (in size) and are the least profitable planets because of this. But use it to test out PI, don't tear it down if its all ready up.

I would suggest a setup using 1 launch pad, 6 factories (more or less depending on what you're planning on making, for Oxygen I would say 6 will be fine since the materials on the planet will decrease over time). If you can afford the CPU / Power keeping the silo is a good idea for additional storage.

Also if you are currently using the command center to launch your items to space, yeah you don't want to do that. Get the launch pad (2000M3 less storage of a silo, but allows you to move items to/from the planet, and store them in the POCO.




You are extracting 48,603 units of P0 per cycle (note this amount will change as materials deplete or repopulate on the planet, or when you move your extractor heads). This means per hour you can feed 8 basic factories 2 times per hour (they run on 30 minute cycles). This means each basic factory will do 2 30 minute cycles yielding 20 units each cycle; or basically 8 factories with 2 cycles per hour making 20 units of Oxygen (P1) each factory per cycle for a total of 320 P1/hour.

As to your M3 question. A factory will make 40 P1 units per hour (20 units every 30 minutes) Oxygen has a M3 value of .38. So 40 (units) X .38 (each units M3 value) = 15.2m3/hour per factory.




Each character can only have 1 command center on the same planet. You can "share" materials with a planet by exporting materials off a planet, or buying them off the market (or whatever way you get your materials) and then importing them from the POCO to your launch pad. You will pay a tax for the exporting/importing if you are in highsec or whatever rate the corp that owns the POCO has it set to (Highsec its 10% export, 5% import).

And since each planet has their own POCO you will need to export from launch pad to the POCO , move the items from POCO to your ship, fly to the other planets POCO and move them and then import from the POCO to the launch pad.

My simple way is to have my 4 PI setups on identical type planets, e.g. all 4 Plasma, or all 4 Ocean, or whatever. Not that I'm going to tell you what the type is, but all 4 are the same type, and I extract the same two kinds of R0 on all four of them, to produce the same kind of P2 on all four of them.

And while I have trained both the Planetology skillz to high (4 IIRC) and Command Center to 5, I'm severely disinclined to train so I become able to manage a 5th planet (let alone a 6th!) because it's a hassle and it's not very profitable. But 4 is manageable.

You're probably much more experienced in PI than me, but Gas planets are probably fine for doing simple stuff like producing a single P1 product, particularly if its a common/abundant one. That said, gas planets can get really really big, so of course its not a bad rule of thumb. I'm using a single gas planet right now for aqueous liquids, they're more abundant there than on the barren planets near me, and with upgrades 4 I can run a silo, 8 processors, and 10 extractor heads, with a fair amount of room to move the extractor around. Gas planets have somewhat unique p0 distribution (based on latitudes) whereas the same resource on a non-gas planet would be less predictable, which can be an advantage or disadvantage.


Do you import the other kind of p1? Sounds like low-hassle setup. But if they're all 4 identical, doing a 5th wouldn't be much extra work.

oh i misread your post, I didn't see you were doing 2 P0's per planet. In that case though, since you don't have to import multiple types of products, there's really no reason they all have to be the same type material (all 4 producing coolant for example). So a 5th planet could literally be anything.

Anyway, I originally set up my planets like this (nullsec though, so much richer planets). But even with the command center upgrades 4 and richer planets, I was still having troubles keeping 2x advanced processors running per planet (wasted material due to lack of storage, and strapped for PG for my extractors). You're using silos (although I bet it can be done with just 1 silo). I ended up switching my set up completely rather than halve down to 1 Advanced processor, although this is exactly what I would do if I was in hisec (trade theoretical income for the luxury of long cycles and longer times between pick ups).

Its just surprising how a short link on a gas planet can suck up all your grid, while you can stretch an extractor control literally halfway around a small non-gas planet and still have 3% grid to spare. I really dislike working with gas planets.