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Bitten.-alliance home system J104846 ripe for invasion
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Nix Anteris
The Dark Space Initiative
Scary Wormhole People
#101 - 2013-02-26 20:47:52 UTC
Surfs Down wrote:
I think is AHARMS attempt at being relevant again in WH space. So they came in and scoped up the ball and said that you can't play anymore.


I guess I've never been so happy to be irrelevant ;)

Zara Arran wrote:

Bite me inc: You knew very well that there was a big chance NoHo/AHARM would show up. Don't be surprised, be prepared.


We're not surprised. We knew they'd be coming along before they did (since we knew we were invading before they did, and we know who the jerkers keep their hands warm for).

Their little game of politics is predictable and boring. I guess we just hoped that the PRNG would deal in our favour for a while.

Paramapataparatatapara Swift wrote:

blah blah blah

Riddled with factual and chronological errors, bad assumptions and omissions.

Paramapataparatatapara Swift wrote:

Worth to note is, that Bitten. also had some help. They had also members of Hobos with a Railgun -corporation with their fleet in our wormhole. We also learned, that they have a POS at Bitten. homesystem. Therefore, we knew now that Bitten. was not alone with this.


Hobos have been rolling with us for around a month now I believe. They were not drafted in specifically for you guys, and their numbers are included in every one of our own reports about our fleet size. Don't flatter yourselves.

They laughed quite hard on comms at the notion you had to call in two extra corps to deal with the 2-3 Hobos who were in your system with us.

Paramapataparatatapara Swift wrote:
knowing Bitten. reputation of not usually fighting except when they are certain to win, we believed that they either had very strong unseen reserves or strong help incoming.


We had strong unseen reserves of balls deep.

Actually, it wasn't that unseen. You forgot to mention the occasion we warped a solo dread to one of your towers and you guys just watched it.

Or the time you got one of our caps in a safe spot as he was logging out, and we warped everything we had online (around half of the original fleet), and you guys tucked tail and hid again.

Funny how you mention you provided a "chance to fight" right at the end there, then accuse us of not taking you up on it. Right at the end there after you got AH, Norcorp, and your random reinforcements in. So much for "intel". Dunce.
Carla Messer
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#102 - 2013-02-26 21:09:56 UTC
Rational actors taking rational actions. People attempting to justify and moralize. Nothing to see here.
Brinxter
Bite Me inc
#103 - 2013-02-26 22:49:58 UTC
Nix Anteris wrote:
Surfs Down wrote:
knowing Bitten. reputation of not usually fighting except when they are certain to win, we believed that they either had very strong unseen reserves or strong help incoming.


We had strong unseen reserves of balls deep.




I just have to comment on this, the amount of times we went into something, with every single member of the fleet knowing we are probably just whelping our fleet, and STILL coming out on top, is mind boggling.
Better yet, for some reason, we even take next to no losses most of the time.

It pays off to be balsy, and we wouldnt have it any other way.
And yes, we do whelp sometimes, and it wont stop us from doing it again.

Really, i love the guys in this corp, and would follow them anywhere, because they'd do the same for me.
Xtrah
Overload This
#104 - 2013-02-27 12:13:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Xtrah
Brinxter wrote:
Nix Anteris wrote:
Surfs Down wrote:
knowing Bitten. reputation of not usually fighting except when they are certain to win, we believed that they either had very strong unseen reserves or strong help incoming.


We had strong unseen reserves of balls deep.




I just have to comment on this, the amount of times we went into something, with every single member of the fleet knowing we are probably just whelping our fleet, and STILL coming out on top, is mind boggling.
Better yet, for some reason, we even take next to no losses most of the time.

It pays off to be balsy, and we wouldnt have it any other way.
And yes, we do whelp sometimes, and it wont stop us from doing it again.

Really, i love the guys in this corp, and would follow them anywhere, because they'd do the same for me.


I'm gonna put this here again, you might have fought others on the conditions mentioned above, but;

Xtrah wrote:
We've also never experienced Bitten taking a fair fight unless they have an edge we don't know about. If it's either putting a couple of Orcas through a hole, so whoever wants to fight them through their hole accidentally collapses themselves on their side - or the more recent 8-10 Bhaalgorns logged off/hidden until the other side commits to a fight. We expected a trap, Bitten's reputation pointed to them never taking such a fight outnumbered in people and resources, especially in someones home system.


Anyone would batphone if they suspected they are getting evicted, as you can never be sure you have all intel, how many hostiles who's actually logged off in your system and so on. When your home and assets are at stake, it doesn't matter how great you outnumber the initial attacking force when it might be a trap as mentioned by Hamatitio earlier (page 4?). I actually encouraged AHARM to come all along, just to blob Bitten and annoy Tuna even further. NoHo brought about 20 subcaps into this, if there was an unknown associate or some ace in the hole the we didn't know about (as that's what previous experiences with Bitten pointed to as mentioned above), our 20 subs would probably not do any difference. However I'm not denying we had caps logged off in system waiting for Bitten's backup Smile

Now I believe Carla is right, thread is just going on with the same arguments and won't go any further than this. I've justified NoHos part in this "counterinvasion" (as that's what it was for us), as the person actually doing the diplo (and the "self righteous" person that talked to Fraddle with Corbexx when Tuna didn't feel like answering). If you choose to listen or not, that's up to you. You can complain or call us names, but when it comes down to it we are the winners here because of your tactical mistakes and bad reputation which basically is the reason we showed up.

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Fradle
Collapsed Out
Pandemic Legion
#105 - 2013-02-27 14:12:07 UTC
Xtrah wrote:
bad reputation which basically is the reason we showed up.

Pack everything up boys, we can't do anything because the other kids on the playground don't like us. Shocked
Nix Anteris
The Dark Space Initiative
Scary Wormhole People
#106 - 2013-02-27 15:42:26 UTC
Xtrah wrote:
if there was an unknown associate or some ace in the hole the we didn't know about (as that's what previous experiences with Bitten pointed to as mentioned above)

Previous experience would never have indicated "unknown associates". Aces aces everywhere though.

Xtrah wrote:
but when it comes down to it we are the winners here because of your tactical mistakes and bad reputation which basically is the reason we showed up.

Not sure how you're quantifying "winning" to be honest.

The ISK war?
The collective time wasted war?
The "made bold claims then lived up to them" war?

You didn't win any of those.

I think our reputation is quite the opposite of "bad" too, actually. It seems to me we're considered quite a threat, and I'd call that a good reputation to have ;)
Bane Nucleus
Dark Venture Corporation
Kitchen Sinkhole
#107 - 2013-02-28 00:37:19 UTC
What should I get for dinner? Chinese or Italian?

No trolling please
Fradle
Collapsed Out
Pandemic Legion
#108 - 2013-02-28 00:43:36 UTC
Bane Nucleus wrote:
What should I get for dinner? Chinese or Italian?

Thai.
Incindir Mauser
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#109 - 2013-02-28 01:05:27 UTC
Bane Nucleus wrote:
What should I get for dinner? Chinese or Italian?


What an interesting thread.

This helped greatly.

Chinese it is.
Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
#110 - 2013-02-28 02:14:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Serendipity Lost
Confirming Bane is contribuing at his maximum capacity. Please do not attempt to stifle the lad. When he gets frustrated he goes into 'juggernaught mode' and there is no stopping him.
Incindir Mauser
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#111 - 2013-02-28 17:16:41 UTC
Serendipity Lost wrote:
Confirming Bane is contribuing at his maximum capacity. Please do not attempt to stifle the lad. When he gets frustrated he goes into 'juggernaught mode' and there is no stopping him.


Just so long as that juggernaught is bringing me my General Tsao's chicken and eggrolls.
Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#112 - 2013-02-28 18:24:45 UTC
EVE Online: 6 pages of badposting and in the end Finland wins.

.
Fradle
Collapsed Out
Pandemic Legion
#113 - 2013-02-28 19:13:49 UTC
Roime wrote:
EVE Online: 6 pages of badposting and in the end Finland wins.

And many alt/nobody posts.
Incindir Mauser
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#114 - 2013-02-28 20:01:40 UTC
Fradle wrote:
Roime wrote:
EVE Online: 6 pages of badposting and in the end Finland wins.

And many alt/nobody posts.


Don't be mad.

So the eviction didn't go as planned.

There's always Chinese food!
Pax Thar
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#115 - 2013-03-02 20:18:44 UTC
+1 for Biten. You guys got guts. Kudos for forcing them to call in help.
Oxandrolone
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#116 - 2013-03-03 00:27:39 UTC
Pax Thar wrote:
+1 for Biten. You guys got guts. Kudos for forcing them to call in help.


we didnt want them to call help, we wanted to take them on, on their own territory Cry
Tisisan
Hard Knocks Inc.
Hard Knocks Citizens
#117 - 2013-03-04 21:54:54 UTC
While the whole 'they shouldn't have called for help' thing is bull, I can confirm that Arctic Light are pussies who roll when presented with the opportunity for a fight in a neutral hole.
Torshawna
Dutch Rudder Trading Company
#118 - 2013-03-05 14:26:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Torshawna
I don't know what you guys are talking about with Arctic Light not fighting. They gave us a good fight yesterday.

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=16666713
Tisisan
Hard Knocks Inc.
Hard Knocks Citizens
#119 - 2013-03-05 15:02:44 UTC
Torshawna wrote:
I don't know what you guys are talking about with Arctic Light not fighting. They gave us a good fight yesterday.

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=16666713



Lucky you, they jumped our scout yesterday, then rolled lickety-split as we got a fleet together a couple holes away.
Dr Agropoly
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#120 - 2013-03-05 18:09:26 UTC
Torshawna wrote:
I don't know what you guys are talking about with Arctic Light not fighting. They gave us a good fight yesterday.

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=16666713


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