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You're on to something here, man.

What if they changed the word WANTED to LOVED. People would embrace the bounty system then.

What a very useful thread....

*Adds a bunch of names to the no-vote list for making fun of how someone wants to play Eve their way.

How does having a bounty stop this person from playing the game their way? Are you dumb or just trolling?

AMEN

I dont even want your stuff

We did not disrespect the OP for his preferences or his play style.
We disrespected him for his conclusion that his only viable reaction to any form of opposition would be to quit the game- and that he was trying to encourage others to do the same.

So some unknown dude put a bounty on your head and you have no idea why?
Well, great for roleplayers, then do something about it, search this guy out, try to contact him, hire other guys to blow him up. There is so much that you could do in game about the situation, ragequitting is just ridiculous, and trying to drive other players out of the game as well is a violation of the EULA as far as I know.

So... a Wanted sign ruined this guy's day?

I like feeling Wanted. With a capital W.

Anyway:

A bounty system in EVE simply doesn't work. We capsulers are all immortal, and most of us who are into the game are very tolerant of material loss. A huge bounty only marginally encourages ganking of the target. Maybe u meet me in high-sec... it'll only be worth your while to suicide gank me if you know I'm wearing expensive implants, or have expensive fits. And if I'm in low or null sec, I know I'm going to die anyway, and I simply don't care.

The only people who post bounties are people who feel that a bounty could somehow motivate others to do their pvp for them, and are too poor to hire real mercs, or are simply ignorant of how griefing and pvp occurs in the game. And these same people get all riled up when 100k token bounties are placed on them because they feel that it somehow makes a difference.

Judging from the insane amounts of isk thrown into the bounty system, it does seem that many people do indeed place their hope, trust, and the whole basis of their in-game defense in being able to put money on someone's head. It's a hilarious state of affairs that's ripe for tear collection.

The bounty system in no way helps people who need others to defend them. Therefore it is broken. Otherwise, I suppose it marginally affects pvp.

Hardly. I've put 400 mil bounties on pilots because it amused me.

I'm still here. -Just feeding the skill queue to make the bio-massing more glorious.

I'm not into the role-playing scene -just playing Eve the way I want and usually minding my own business. My understanding of the bounty system is adequate. No explanations as to why there's a "WANTED" sign on this toon are required.

If a criminal placed a public advertisement requesting that I be murdered and offered money for the accomplishment of that task, then I suspect that, at least a small number of people would be concerned -including local law enforcement types. Such behavior would not be acceptable in a civilized nation, state, or federation. So, I reject the bounty system as it is currently implemented.

For those who have placed bounties upon me and those possibly considering it... I'm a bit disturbed that you'd tie up your hard-earned ISK on my account. I hope you do get your ISK back when this toon is bio-massed -if that's the way things work. You've created a distracting sense of obligation and duty within me. I'd rather you saved yourself the trouble though. Unfortunately, I'm not ambitious enough to arrange for some sort of interest-bearing bounty reward for you. You are entitled to place bounties. I'm in agreement with that and will not retaliate. My retaliation is towards CCP.
I would find it difficult to believe to learn that CCP employees have never heard of the saying, let sleeping dogs lie or don't stir up the hornets nest or other pertinent parables -especially Don't bite the hand that feeds you. CCP has violated all of these ideals with the current implementation of the bounty system.

What day, exactly, is the Party at the Top of the World? I'd hate to miss my own appointment.

I'll try to place my CSM vote one last time before the end.

Thank you and fly safe.

Who says it's a criminal? The character I placed the bounty on you with is a Minmatar in good standing with the Caldari State and a whole host of corporations within it, as well as both good standings towards CONCORD and a high security status. In RP terms, you raised the ire of a wealthy businessman.

Insofar as whether a "civilized nation, state or federation" would allow such a thing, well... the Empires would love to be able to control the capsuleers outright, I'm sure, but how do you control a demigod? Oh, sure, some remain loyal within the navies, but many, perhaps even most, strike out on their own seeking a degree of independence. While I'm sure some Empires would love to forbid such "barbaric" practices as bounties or wars between capsuleers, banning them o simply means capsuleers within their borders leave to take up residence outside empire space (bad as it's hard to leverage an asset outside your realm), leave to take up residence within another Empire (even worse, as it means a foe now has a potential asset), or simply ignores the laws and does what they will anyway (worst of all, as laws that are ignored lose their legitimacy, as do the governments issuing them.)

When viewed in that light, allowing tightly controlled conflict between capsuleers (wardecs) or death marks from one to another (bounties) is greatly preferable.

And even then it's OK as long as it's fitted with a tank and it's not too expensive.