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Incursion, what and why
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Luc Chastot
#121 - 2013-02-22 08:19:03 UTC
I try to defend highsec people, but it's sometimes such a hard thing to do.

Make it idiot-proof and someone will make a better idiot.

Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#122 - 2013-02-22 08:31:33 UTC
Luc Chastot wrote:
I try to defend highsec people, but it's sometimes such a hard thing to do.


There's just no helping some people, and those people are not worth defending.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Doomheim
#123 - 2013-02-22 09:13:06 UTC
kinadyan wrote:
I have been out of the game for a few years and I don’t fully understand what an incursion dose to a system.



I would read these things called "patch notes" or as CCP calls them "Dev Blogs". You can even use Google to search for stuff that is related to Eve. Coming on here and crying about losing your ship after you didnt play for 2 years is funny.




Made a signature so I am taken seriously on the forums, since thats the only thing they are good for.
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#124 - 2013-02-22 13:11:35 UTC
kinadyan wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Incursions don't turn highsec into lowsec, it's still highsec for all intents and purposes, engage in illegal aggression and Concord still punish you. What an incursion does is turn a constellation into a temporary war zone, in a war zone the combatants pack bigger guns that they would in a non war zone.

In essence you're asking for combatants taking part in a war to kindly not bring their armoured vehicles, troops and weapons into your neighbourhood, even though your country is at war. Try that in real life, see how far it gets you. War is not a consensual activity, one side (in this case you) generally doesn't want it, but they get it anyway.


No i am asking ccp to give me a choise if i want to pertispate in the war. and not leave mewith the choise of move not play or fight


I've been playing a lot in this thread because it is stupidly funny that attitudes like this exist. But damn, get over it. You can't even be bother to click buttons (that's all yo have to do, EVE is a video game) to move a hadful of jumps over to mine? Pathetic.

High sec doesn't even get it that bad, in low and null sec you can jump into incursion rats on GATES.

I always find it funny and sad when I encounter high sec people who really don't like the universal non-consensual PVP nature of EVE. But damn, we've found someone that can't even handle non-consensual PVE
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#125 - 2013-02-22 13:14:08 UTC
Luc Chastot wrote:
I try to defend highsec people, but it's sometimes such a hard thing to do.


For the (grudging) sake of fairness, i will say that the vast majority of high sec (and all EVE) players are not like this, but the worse ones stick out.

If this guy is so upset at the idea of having to make a few mouse clicks to move his mining ship 3-6 jumps, an actual suicide gank against him might put him in a real life hospital.
Wodensun
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#126 - 2013-02-22 13:24:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Wodensun
jesus talking about a whine thread.. you sound and type like a lil child HTFU and adapt

Incursions >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejX0Rym0NZw&list=PLF614A7A6461E61E1&index=12

Do not give me likes them 101 likes arent a accident...
Call Rollard
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#127 - 2013-02-22 13:30:49 UTC
If 0.0 industrialists had sovereignty warfare happening near them, would they?

1) Stay there where enemy gangs roam frequently.

2) Move system away from the enemies.

The way you are OP, is you'd stick to 1. Fact is you need to adapt and move systems, incursions are basicly a warzone.
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#128 - 2013-02-22 14:10:15 UTC
Honestly, why do all the ******* in hisec have to post on GD. I wish some of us who also make a living in hisec and aren't whiny ****** about it could right some wrongs in threads like these.

Sugar Von MurdererTits : Jake Warbird gets my vote for most intriguing and attractive male character in Eve.
Danks
Fat Angry Toe Tappin Inbreds
#129 - 2013-02-22 14:22:47 UTC
I really hope this is a troll, I'd hate to think of someone teaching this blind entitlement to their kids.
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#130 - 2013-02-22 14:33:41 UTC
Danks wrote:
I really hope this is a troll, I'd hate to think of someone teaching this blind entitlement to their kids.


One must teach one's own kids something, if for no other reason to pass the time while waiting for one's welfare check to come in one's mail box.
JC Anderson
RED ROSE THORN
#131 - 2013-02-22 14:35:31 UTC  |  Edited by: JC Anderson
Incursion systems are completely random, without any favoritism in terms of where and when they sprout. This happens in much the same way as wormhole entrances/exits collapsing and randomly opening another somewhere else in New Eden.

If CCP was to do it any other way, then it WOULD BE playing favorites and just as many people would claim that there is a bias in that regard as well. The current system makes it so that nobody knows where one will pop up next with any certainty. If you were not aware, incursions are pve content and tend to generate more isk for those involved than any other pve activity in the game. And this is even after they were nerfed.

It is working as intended.

Either wait for the incursion to be defeated by involved players, JOIN a incursion fleet and HELP remedy the situation, move to another system, or sit around and do nothing. The concept behind them is that when the Sansha invade, they pretty much bring those systems to a complete standstill. This encourages cooperation between players as they try to push the Sansha back and force them out of the area.

Again, working as intended.

The entire point here is that they are SUPPOSED to make it hard for you to go about your regular activities if an incursion just so happen to take place in an area you frequently use. You either fight to expel them, or you go somewhere else.
Tiberious Thessalonia
True Slave Foundations
#132 - 2013-02-22 14:36:35 UTC
Hilariously, if the OP had been making jumps during all the time he had been typing responses here, he would have already have been out of the incursion zone. vOv
Ager Agemo
Rainbow Ponies Incorporated
#133 - 2013-02-22 14:41:10 UTC
where is the damned bounty button on the forums!? this guy makes me feel sick of touching the same space he might fly at...
JC Anderson
RED ROSE THORN
#134 - 2013-02-22 14:44:37 UTC
I'm not sure if I've ever read a thread prior to this one that had empire, null, and lowsec players cooperating to defeat the nonsense in the OP.

Hey, I guess it's kind of like an incursion.
Ancy Denaries
Frontier Venture
#135 - 2013-02-22 23:01:08 UTC
kinadyan wrote:
Thank you for your explation of an incursion, and i understand that it is other player can do what ever they want, they pay to play the same as i do but ccp pop my ships in .7 space not a npc and that is my problem
You, sir, are playing the wrong game.

"Shoot at anything that moves. If it doesn't move, shoot it anyway, it might move later."

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Gallente Federation
#136 - 2013-02-22 23:04:42 UTC
kinadyan wrote:
I have been out of the game for a few years and I don’t fully understand what an incursion dose to a system. I do know that I lost 3 hulks do to my ignorance and almost my Orca, do to the fact that the rats in the belts were not the normal rats I was use to. I have accepted the fact that I have to deal with greefers and other people that are looking for a fight in high sec.. I worked my concord faction to lower this problem. I have accepted that fact that if I want to build anything that I must pay a high price for low sec. ore. I have no want to pvp or have to deal with low sec. rats in my belts in high sec. I have 4 account (costing me 60$ us ) so me and my sons can play together and all we do is mine and mission. And it is bowling my mind that CCP would cater so much to pvp player or player that r to chicken ___t to move to low sec. and play that they bring low sec to high sec for them. I would love to see the # of account that are not active just because CCP dose not realize that not everyone wants this kind of game play. Ugh
It is bowling my mind why you aren't playing World of Warcraft and farming herbs.
Karle Tabot
State War Academy
Caldari State
#137 - 2013-02-23 03:41:48 UTC
So none of you realize this obvious troll?

Seriously?

Now why would anyone want to troll like that?

Do you really need me to explain that?
Bizzaro Stormy MurphDog
B.L.U.E L.A.S.E.R.
#138 - 2013-02-23 03:54:25 UTC
Karle Tabot wrote:
So none of you realize this obvious troll?

Seriously?

Now why would anyone want to troll like that?

Do you really need me to explain that?


Thank you. EVE's got one of the dumbest player bases I've seen considering the size of the population base, but I was shocked at how terrible all the responses to this troll were.

Hell, five pages in he overstepped himself and managed to wedge in a comment about how "his ships are cheaper because he mines his own minerals" and somehow the bads missed that obvious troll bait . . . But just kept on biting off of the original post.

It is a transparent troll, but it sure got a lot of bites.

I am not an alt of Chribba.
Bizzaro Stormy MurphDog
B.L.U.E L.A.S.E.R.
#139 - 2013-02-23 03:55:23 UTC
Poetic Stanziel wrote:
kinadyan wrote:
I have been out of the game for a few years and I don’t fully understand what an incursion dose to a system. I do know that I lost 3 hulks do to my ignorance and almost my Orca, do to the fact that the rats in the belts were not the normal rats I was use to. I have accepted the fact that I have to deal with greefers and other people that are looking for a fight in high sec.. I worked my concord faction to lower this problem. I have accepted that fact that if I want to build anything that I must pay a high price for low sec. ore. I have no want to pvp or have to deal with low sec. rats in my belts in high sec. I have 4 account (costing me 60$ us ) so me and my sons can play together and all we do is mine and mission. And it is bowling my mind that CCP would cater so much to pvp player or player that r to chicken ___t to move to low sec. and play that they bring low sec to high sec for them. I would love to see the # of account that are not active just because CCP dose not realize that not everyone wants this kind of game play. Ugh
It is bowling my mind why you aren't playing World of Warcraft and farming herbs.


I have a feeling that the sentiment is mutual :)

I am not an alt of Chribba.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#140 - 2013-02-23 04:05:52 UTC
It may well be a troll, but what if he's actually serious?

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