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Incursion, what and why

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kinadyan
Get Minning and Sons
#101 - 2013-02-21 22:58:13 UTC
bwahahahahahahahahahahahahhaah what a idiot. EVE is not for you. Try WoW[/quote]

well hun i did did not like becauase i dont want raid in eve i dont have to, to get my toon top of the game in skills. and if u want scrole up and you can read were i said that.
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Call Rollard
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#102 - 2013-02-21 23:00:47 UTC
Try doing some incursions, you will find out how much ISK you will make doing it.

Otherwise just send rage mails to Sansha Kuvakei and hope something will happen.

CCP won't change incursions.
The CandyGirl
Candy's Toy Shop
#103 - 2013-02-21 23:11:42 UTC
I agree with the op.

The most recent incursion in the rancer pocket interfered with my gate camping.
Killing the npcs that tried to steal our kills made my go from-10 to-9.8 and that is unacceptable.

Do you know how many people i needed to pod to get back to-10.....

Wait what were we talking about again?

Being a smartass is always better than being a dumbass!

kinadyan
Get Minning and Sons
#104 - 2013-02-21 23:12:29 UTC  |  Edited by: kinadyan
Call Rollard wrote:
Try doing some incursions, you will find out how much ISK you will make doing it.

Otherwise just send rage mails to Sansha Kuvakei and hope something will happen.

CCP won't change incursions.


ok i have play ever quest wow swort and rifts and in all these game i have had to rely on other ablity to play and and after 9 years of it i am tierd of that kind of play witch brought me back to eve and i have excepted the fact that i can never get out of pvp and i did not like playing in low sec my frist time around because i have to rely on other. so i stay in high sec and think if they can write a hole expation for those to scare to play in low sec they could take the low sec rats out of the high sec belt that interfer with game play with those who do not want combat style of game play. and the only combat i do is mission for faction so my tax rate gos down and mybe some day have my own pos
Smile
kinadyan
Get Minning and Sons
#105 - 2013-02-21 23:16:18 UTC
The CandyGirl wrote:
I agree with the op.

The most recent incursion in the rancer pocket interfered with my gate camping.
Killing the npcs that tried to steal our kills made my go from-10 to-9.8 and that is unacceptable.

Do you know how many people i needed to pod to get back to-10.....

Wait what were we talking about again?


low sec rats in high sec belts durring an incursion
Call Rollard
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Caldari State
#106 - 2013-02-21 23:25:16 UTC
kinadyan wrote:
Call Rollard wrote:
Try doing some incursions, you will find out how much ISK you will make doing it.

Otherwise just send rage mails to Sansha Kuvakei and hope something will happen.

CCP won't change incursions.


ok i have play ever quest wow swort and rifts and in all these game i have had to rely on other ablity to play and and after 9 years of it i am tierd of that kind of play witch brought me back to eve and i have excepted the fact that i can never get out of pvp and i did not like playing in low sec my frist time around because i have to rely on other. so i stay in high sec and think if they can write a hole expation for those to scare to play in low sec they could take the low sec rats out of the high sec belt that interfer with game play with those who do not want combat style of game play. and the only combat i do is mission for faction so my tax rate gos down and mybe some day have my own pos
Smile


Move to another constellation which is just a few jumps away if you want to avoid incursion areas, its quite simple. In high sec incursions, gates area always clear from Sansha.

Even when people live in 0.0, Incursions can cause problems for the 0.0 people. Gates usually have Sansha on them, jump bridges are offlined.

Simply move to another constellation for a few days until the incursion is over.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#107 - 2013-02-21 23:31:27 UTC
Call Rollard wrote:
kinadyan wrote:
Call Rollard wrote:
Try doing some incursions, you will find out how much ISK you will make doing it.

Otherwise just send rage mails to Sansha Kuvakei and hope something will happen.

CCP won't change incursions.


ok i have play ever quest wow swort and rifts and in all these game i have had to rely on other ablity to play and and after 9 years of it i am tierd of that kind of play witch brought me back to eve and i have excepted the fact that i can never get out of pvp and i did not like playing in low sec my frist time around because i have to rely on other. so i stay in high sec and think if they can write a hole expation for those to scare to play in low sec they could take the low sec rats out of the high sec belt that interfer with game play with those who do not want combat style of game play. and the only combat i do is mission for faction so my tax rate gos down and mybe some day have my own pos
Smile


Move to another constellation which is just a few jumps away if you want to avoid incursion areas, its quite simple. In high sec incursions, gates area always clear from Sansha.

Even when people live in 0.0, Incursions can cause problems for the 0.0 people. Gates usually have Sansha on them, jump bridges are offlined.

Simply move to another constellation for a few days until the incursion is over.


He doesn't want to, entirely too much effort. He thinks he should be free from risk, while mining in a warzone.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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kinadyan
Get Minning and Sons
#108 - 2013-02-21 23:31:27 UTC
Call Rollard wrote:
kinadyan wrote:
Call Rollard wrote:
Try doing some incursions, you will find out how much ISK you will make doing it.

Otherwise just send rage mails to Sansha Kuvakei and hope something will happen.

CCP won't change incursions.


ok i have play ever quest wow swort and rifts and in all these game i have had to rely on other ablity to play and and after 9 years of it i am tierd of that kind of play witch brought me back to eve and i have excepted the fact that i can never get out of pvp and i did not like playing in low sec my frist time around because i have to rely on other. so i stay in high sec and think if they can write a hole expation for those to scare to play in low sec they could take the low sec rats out of the high sec belt that interfer with game play with those who do not want combat style of game play. and the only combat i do is mission for faction so my tax rate gos down and mybe some day have my own pos
Smile


Move to another constellation which is just a few jumps away if you want to avoid incursion areas, its quite simple. In high sec incursions, gates area always clear from Sansha.

Even when people live in 0.0, Incursions can cause problems for the 0.0 people. Gates usually have Sansha on them, jump bridges are offlined.

Simply move to another constellation for a few days until the incursion is over.


i under stand i could move and if ccp dose not change it i will but my point is why should i have to. why should other in the game that may not want or have to skill to be force in to it. i have also noticed that ore prices have almost double witch make me think that all the people that just want to mine have been ran out of the game.

Call Rollard
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#109 - 2013-02-21 23:33:00 UTC
kinadyan wrote:
Call Rollard wrote:
kinadyan wrote:
Call Rollard wrote:
Try doing some incursions, you will find out how much ISK you will make doing it.

Otherwise just send rage mails to Sansha Kuvakei and hope something will happen.

CCP won't change incursions.


ok i have play ever quest wow swort and rifts and in all these game i have had to rely on other ablity to play and and after 9 years of it i am tierd of that kind of play witch brought me back to eve and i have excepted the fact that i can never get out of pvp and i did not like playing in low sec my frist time around because i have to rely on other. so i stay in high sec and think if they can write a hole expation for those to scare to play in low sec they could take the low sec rats out of the high sec belt that interfer with game play with those who do not want combat style of game play. and the only combat i do is mission for faction so my tax rate gos down and mybe some day have my own pos
Smile


Move to another constellation which is just a few jumps away if you want to avoid incursion areas, its quite simple. In high sec incursions, gates area always clear from Sansha.

Even when people live in 0.0, Incursions can cause problems for the 0.0 people. Gates usually have Sansha on them, jump bridges are offlined.

Simply move to another constellation for a few days until the incursion is over.


i under stand i could move and if ccp dose not change it i will but my point is why should i have to. why should other in the game that may not want or have to skill to be force in to it. i have also noticed that ore prices have almost double witch make me think that all the people that just want to mine have been ran out of the game.



Ore prices have doubled due to demand and supply. Suicide ganking can cause the ore prices to go up and many other factors.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#110 - 2013-02-21 23:36:38 UTC
Still plenty of miners out there. Ore & mineral prices gone up? you should be thanking the people who've made it possible for miners to earn more for their efforts, they're the ones that make other peoples ships explode via PvP or just plain ganking.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Davith en Divalone
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#111 - 2013-02-21 23:38:21 UTC
Two easy solutions:

1: Wait 24-48 hours.
2: Jump through a few gates to do your thing.

kinadyan
Get Minning and Sons
#112 - 2013-02-21 23:39:27 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Call Rollard wrote:
kinadyan wrote:
[quote=Call Rollard]Try doing some incursions, you will find out how much ISK you will make doing it.

Otherwise just send rage mails to Sansha Kuvakei and hope something will happen.

CCP won't change incursions.


Move to another constellation which is just a few jumps away if you want to avoid incursion areas, its quite simple. In high sec incursions, gates area always clear from Sansha.

Even when people live in 0.0, Incursions can cause problems for the 0.0 people. Gates usually have Sansha on them, jump bridges are offlined.

Simply move to another constellation for a few days until the incursion is over.


He doesn't want to, entirely too much effort. He thinks he should be free from risk, while mining in a warzone.


as everyone has said there is no safe place in eve i just dont think ccp should be the one making it high sec low sec even for a few day over 60% of the space in the game is low sec why dose the .01% i play have to be. and i not say to get rid of the incursion i just think that rats in the belts are to much
Call Rollard
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#113 - 2013-02-21 23:42:45 UTC
kinadyan wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Call Rollard wrote:
kinadyan wrote:
[quote=Call Rollard]Try doing some incursions, you will find out how much ISK you will make doing it.

Otherwise just send rage mails to Sansha Kuvakei and hope something will happen.

CCP won't change incursions.


Move to another constellation which is just a few jumps away if you want to avoid incursion areas, its quite simple. In high sec incursions, gates area always clear from Sansha.

Even when people live in 0.0, Incursions can cause problems for the 0.0 people. Gates usually have Sansha on them, jump bridges are offlined.

Simply move to another constellation for a few days until the incursion is over.


He doesn't want to, entirely too much effort. He thinks he should be free from risk, while mining in a warzone.


as everyone has said there is no safe place in eve i just dont think ccp should be the one making it high sec low sec even for a few day over 60% of the space in the game is low sec why dose the .01% i play have to be. and i not say to get rid of the incursion i just think that rats in the belts are to much


0.0 is in fact the most common space around. However Incursions just makes belts totally dangerous in high sec. general Low sec is even more dangerous with gate camps and such.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#114 - 2013-02-21 23:46:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Incursions don't turn highsec into lowsec, it's still highsec for all intents and purposes, engage in illegal aggression and Concord still punish you. What an incursion does is turn a constellation into a temporary war zone, in a war zone the combatants pack bigger guns that they would in a non war zone.

In essence you're asking for combatants taking part in a war to kindly not bring their armoured vehicles, troops and weapons into your neighbourhood, even though your country is at war. Try that in real life, see how far it gets you. War is not a consensual activity, one side (in this case you) generally doesn't want it, but they get it anyway.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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kinadyan
Get Minning and Sons
#115 - 2013-02-21 23:50:51 UTC
Ore prices have doubled due to demand and supply. Suicide ganking can cause the ore prices to go up and many other factors.
[/quote]

Dose that meen the ganking ran off real miners and ccp ran off bot miners, so i am suprized all you that are combat oriented player would not love me i build ships and try andkeepmy prices lower then any one else because i mine my own or and only buy low sec witch let me do that
The CandyGirl
Candy's Toy Shop
#116 - 2013-02-22 03:40:10 UTC
kinadyan wrote:


low sec rats in high sec belts durring an incursion



You are wrong they are not low sec rats. They are not even null sec rates they are far stronger and more dangerous.

The whole point of an incursion is to basically shut everything else down in the constellation until it goes away or is beat.

Your mining barges are nothing compared to the multiple billions lost in the first week of incursions.

QQ more

Being a smartass is always better than being a dumbass!

kinadyan
Get Minning and Sons
#117 - 2013-02-22 06:26:59 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Incursions don't turn highsec into lowsec, it's still highsec for all intents and purposes, engage in illegal aggression and Concord still punish you. What an incursion does is turn a constellation into a temporary war zone, in a war zone the combatants pack bigger guns that they would in a non war zone.

In essence you're asking for combatants taking part in a war to kindly not bring their armoured vehicles, troops and weapons into your neighbourhood, even though your country is at war. Try that in real life, see how far it gets you. War is not a consensual activity, one side (in this case you) generally doesn't want it, but they get it anyway.


No i am asking ccp to give me a choise if i want to pertispate in the war. and not leave mewith the choise of move not play or fight
kinadyan
Get Minning and Sons
#118 - 2013-02-22 06:29:02 UTC
The CandyGirl wrote:
kinadyan wrote:


low sec rats in high sec belts durring an incursion



You are wrong they are not low sec rats. They are not even null sec rates they are far stronger and more dangerous.

The whole point of an incursion is to basically shut everything else down in the constellation until it goes away or is beat.

Your mining barges are nothing compared to the multiple billions lost in the first week of incursions.

QQ more


even more reason not to have them in the belts. and it did alomst cost me a bill to repace and refit my ships
Danalee
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#119 - 2013-02-22 07:54:38 UTC
kinadyan wrote:


No i am asking ccp to give me a choise if i want to pertispate in the war. and not leave mewith the choise of move not play or fight



Did I read this correct?

So your are asking CCP to leave you a choice, but not one of the many choices they left you with?

- Move a few jumps to mine.
- Wait a little while to mine in 'your' current solar system.
- Engage in the provided content.
- Ask people to engage in the content for you.

I think you don't want to play multiplayer games ever again, it's just not for you.
No need to thank me for this very kind reply, just contract everything your characters have to me and cancel your accounts.
We will miss you (NOT)

As a side note: I am playing progress quest (http://progressquest.com) and am having a blast!
It's free, nobody comes to kill you, you don't have to be at your keyboard to make progress.... You really should try it!

D.

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Member and Juror of the Court of Crime and Punishment

Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#120 - 2013-02-22 08:08:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
kinadyan wrote:


No i am asking ccp to give me a choise if i want to pertispate in the war. and not leave mewith the choise of move not play or fight

It's a war zone, how hard is that to understand?

There are two types of gamer, one tries to change a game to suit them, the other changes to suit the game. You appear to be one of the former group, the group that has already ruined the likes of Ultima Online because the devs pandered to people like you, and killed their game in the process. We're not going to let you or your ilk do that to Eve, because it's one of the few MMOs that hasn't kowtowed to the demands of the namby pamby fluffy dreamers who want an MMO free of risk from both NPCs and other players.

CCP have already given you two ingame choices, one of which gives you a chance to opt out of a temporary war, which is more than you'd get in a real life war zone.

The NPCs aren't going to ignore you simply because you want them to. Yes the incursion rats are nasty, they're meant to be because incursions are a group activity and the rewards are in line with how nasty they are.

You're asking CCP to change an event/mechanic that has been running for over a year to suit you, when all you have to do is leave the constellation for a few days, if you can't be bothered to move, that's your problem, not CCPs. Tens of thousands of other people are ok with it, what makes you so damn special & unique that CCP should change things just for you?

TL;DR Eve is hard, some NPCs are utter bastards, you are not a special snowflake, if you can't deal with that then there are plenty of other games that will allow you to play the way you want to.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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