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A few misconceptions.
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Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
#41 - 2013-02-21 04:26:47 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
The world outside of the US and Canada would beg to differ.


... and would most likely beat the OP into a bloody smear on the sidewalk if he said it to their faces.

http://youtu.be/t0q2F8NsYQ0
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#42 - 2013-02-21 04:33:46 UTC
Katran Luftschreck wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
The world outside of the US and Canada would beg to differ.


... and would most likely beat the OP into a bloody smear on the sidewalk if he said it to their faces.


Depends, if the "World" he spoke to was English, they'd just burn down their own stadium in protest. If it was French, they'd just boo him off the field. If it was Italian, they'd fake an injury a second or so later to get the ref to send OP off field.

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Felicity Love
Doomheim
#43 - 2013-02-21 04:47:53 UTC
Katran Luftschreck wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
The world outside of the US and Canada would beg to differ.


... and would most likely beat the OP into a bloody smear on the sidewalk if he said it to their faces.


Actually, the "bloody smear" part would involve some quality time with the lads on the hockey rink -- Eh? Blink

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kilteroff
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#44 - 2013-02-21 05:19:56 UTC
For the record: It's called football because the ball is a foot long. (American obviously)
Super spikinator
Hegemonous Conscripts
#45 - 2013-02-21 05:54:56 UTC
Mara Rinn wrote:
Katran Luftschreck wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
The world outside of the US and Canada would beg to differ.


... and would most likely beat the OP into a bloody smear on the sidewalk if he said it to their faces.


Depends, if the "World" he spoke to was English, they'd just burn down their own stadium in protest. If it was French, they'd just boo him off the field. If it was Italian, they'd fake an injury a second or so later to get the ref to send OP off field.


I vote we allow the eastern europeans in first. Bloody smear is mild compared to what they will do.
SoOza N'GasZ
L F C
Ethereal Dawn
#46 - 2013-02-21 07:31:54 UTC
RubyPorto wrote:
FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:
I take exception to American football being called "handegg" unless you opt to refer to Rugby by the same term. Both are games which fall under the category of a game played on foot with a ball, hence "football" (as opposed to games played on horseback).


So, we calling Polo "Hoofball" now?

hoof club ball

Legba
Arronicus
State War Academy
Caldari State
#47 - 2013-02-21 08:38:58 UTC
Katran Luftschreck wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
The world outside of the US and Canada would beg to differ.


... and would most likely beat the OP into a bloody smear on the sidewalk if he said it to their faces.


Lean in clooooooooose to your screen.

"Soccer isn't a real sport. Soccer is warmup for ballet"
Signal11th
#48 - 2013-02-21 09:29:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Signal11th
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Arronicus wrote:

Soccer (Football, to you Euros) is not a real sport. It is a game of actors and actresses, who flop about lacking real effort and enthusiam, until someone else bumps into them, and they are called on to make the performance of a lifetime, pretending like they are being violently murdered, in the hope of a penalty being inflicted on the other team. Soccer is a boring, slow paced game, played by pansies. Which race would win a football (soccer) match is irrelevant, because only the gallente would be silly enough to participate, and would still likely lose, with no other competitors.


The world outside of the US and Canada would beg to differ. Those countries have their own sports called football, so they refer to it as soccer. Pretty much everywhere else calls it Football, soccer is a derivative of Association Football, which is the game that is played internationally. While American Football (henchforth known as Handegg P) is played outside of the US it's very much a minority sport internationally.



To be honest I'm a old 80's football fan from the UK and football is now more a theatre than a sport. Rugby is and has always been a much better sport plus they don't roll around like they have been shot usually after someone has broke an arm let alone when someone pushes them lightly.

To be honest though as an American you can really say anything about football being a pansies game when your lot are all padded up like michelen men and basketball is just like the old game of pong.

Where you yanks have got it right is ice hockey! Quality game and one I wish the UK got more involved with.

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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#49 - 2013-02-21 09:56:51 UTC
FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:


I take exception to American football being called "handegg" unless you opt to refer to Rugby by the same term. Both are games which fall under the category of a game played on foot with a ball, hence "football" (as opposed to games played on horseback).


They use their hands far more than their feet and the ball looks like an egg, that why it gets called handegg. Rugby doesn't try to trick peopleBlink
Irya Boone
The Scope
#50 - 2013-02-21 11:02:59 UTC
NO

Sandbox doesn't mean only PvP

you miss the first misconception in this game

CCP it's time to remove Off Grid Boost and Put Them on Killmail too, add Logi on killmails .... Open that damn door !!

you shall all bow and pray BoB
Propelled
Perkone
Caldari State
#51 - 2013-02-21 11:21:00 UTC
kilteroff wrote:
For the record: It's called football because the ball is a foot long. (American obviously)

Wait really? I had no idea, that's pretty interesting. A foot is about 30cm right?
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#52 - 2013-02-21 11:38:20 UTC
No

GD doesn't care about your OP and wants to talk about something else instead.

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Tialano Utrigas
Running with Dogs
Out of the Blue.
#53 - 2013-02-21 11:47:49 UTC
Yes

Mined minerals are free because i'm not f**king paying for them!! If i get given vegetable seeds and plant them...then the f**king carrots are free.

The fact I could be doing something else with my time to allow me to buy carrots is irrelevent.

I get given a Venture
I mine the ore
That ore didnt cost me ****!

Lol
Arronicus
State War Academy
Caldari State
#54 - 2013-02-21 12:59:09 UTC
Tialano Utrigas wrote:
Yes

Mined minerals are free because i'm not f**king paying for them!! If i get given vegetable seeds and plant them...then the f**king carrots are free.

The fact I could be doing something else with my time to allow me to buy carrots is irrelevent.

I get given a Venture
I mine the ore
That ore didnt cost me ****!

Lol


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Felicity Love
Doomheim
#55 - 2013-02-21 13:17:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Felicity Love
Signal11th wrote:


Where you yanks have got it right is ice hockey! Quality game and one I wish the UK got more involved with.


Yanks? Check your map, lad. Blink

Come spend some time in the "Great White North", on a frozen lake in the middle of winter, and we'll show you how it's really played. Fresh bodies on the ice are always welcome.

Oh, and bring spare teeth. First thing to go is usually the teeth. Blink

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Davith en Divalone
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#56 - 2013-02-21 15:13:03 UTC
Op reminds me of this song.

Or is it this one?
LHA Tarawa
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#57 - 2013-02-21 15:46:05 UTC
Arronicus wrote:

Eve is not an ecosystem. We, the players, are the only non-static entity. Nothing revolves around us, changes, or relies on us, that would continue to exist if we were not here.


Ecosystem: a system formed by the interaction of a community of organisms with their environment.

EVE is an ecosystem of player (organisms) interacting with each other and their environment (game mechanics). My problem with the "EVE is an ecosystem" thread was it's assertion that the ecosystem is sick because high sec is too safe and the rewards are too high, and the proposed solution to the illness (nerf high sec while making it more dangerous.

I believe the issue remains, as it has been, in the mind set of the PVPers that think they can dictate play style onto others.

EVE can have different areas of the game, with different rule sets, that accommodate various play styles.

I've never been opposed to, say, buffing the mineral yield of low/null ores. For example, make basic veld in high sec, make condensed produce 2x as much trit instead of 1.1x as much, then put it only in low. Have Dense produce 4x as much trit, and only be in null. The result, of course, would be to increase mineral production from low/null pushing down prices and being a stealth nerf to high sec miners.

However, I'm STRONGLY opposed to making high sec a more dangerous place, and am in favor of any additional changes needed to keep high sec a safe place for the carebears and causal players. You can not force carebears to live in a more dangerous EVE. All you can do is force them to quit, and despite what some may say, that helps no one.



Arronicus wrote:

Making highsec safer will not make the game better. It will make it even more stale and boring than it has become. What it lacks is proper conflict drivers, and common sense between highsec dwellers on safe fitting/hauling guidelines.


Disagree. There is no reason not to keep/make high sec safe for carebears. Any conflict drivers should be focused on creating conflict between players that enjoy the conflict aspects of the game, leaving in place, the non-hostile conflict drivers for those not interested in conflict.

Arronicus wrote:

Ratting with drones is not harder post Retribution 1.0 in december, it is easier. Fit an ecm or RR module, activate it, and all the rats will stay focused on ships activating Ecm or RR in regular anomalies and most missions.


I've moved to missioning with two toons perma cross RRing shield to each other. On initial spawn of each wave, the rats will still engage my drones, killing them before I've had a chance to get them back into my ship. Yes, once I get the aggro off the drones, it does not switch back to the drones. However, for that time between spawn and drones getting back in the bay, they do, in fact, get shot.

Also, giving up a high for ECM or RR does in fact, lower DPS, making ratting "more difficult".
Ginger Barbarella
#58 - 2013-02-21 16:12:31 UTC
No.

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Amirite??

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Signal11th
#59 - 2013-02-21 16:46:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Signal11th
Felicity Love wrote:
Signal11th wrote:


Where you yanks have got it right is ice hockey! Quality game and one I wish the UK got more involved with.


Yanks? Check your map, lad. Blink

Come spend some time in the "Great White North", on a frozen lake in the middle of winter, and we'll show you how it's really played. Fresh bodies on the ice are always welcome.

Oh, and bring spare teeth. First thing to go is usually the teeth. Blink



My apologies, As I've actually been to Canada lots more times than the USA I should have known better. In fact one of my wishes came true in Edmonton watching them play NJ Devils (although I was there to watch NJ Devils not Edmonton, :-) ) plus it was dirt cheap as well 30 bucks or something like that.
Even better to watch it live than on the TV.

God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!" I came fifth and won a toaster!
CMD Ishikawa
New Eden Public Security Section 9
#60 - 2013-02-21 17:04:44 UTC
Katran Luftschreck wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
The world outside of the US and Canada would beg to differ.


... and would most likely beat the OP into a bloody smear on the sidewalk if he said it to their faces.


Yes, incude some dismembering.

Never undesrtood why people likes soccer that much, I get bored most of the time.

I prefer to play with little internet spaceships ... =P