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$$$$$$$$$$$-----Insurance for your HEAD!------- $$$$$$$$$$$$$$

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Ivy Romanova
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#1 - 2013-02-20 00:26:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Ivy Romanova
Losing ship?
Worth hundreds of mil.
PLATINUM INSURANCE is here to ease your pain.
But where is the insurance for pods aka implants within our head ?
Where is our LIFE insurance?
More often than not our head is worth MAGNITUDES above the cost of our ships and our pods..... are A LOT more vulnerable .

Should we establish an insurance system that reimburse part of your implants worth upon death ?

Some say this will create another isk faucet, potentially causing a destructive inflation.

#53Posted: 2013.02.21 06:34 | Report
People say this as if Isk faucet is a bad thing.

With more ISK in the game, those tech 2 ships and modules we all love using or the price of an individual PLEX may increase significantly.
Those hit hardest by this theoretical runaway inflation would be the average Joe who gets his income from mission-running, ratting or exploration.

However , at the same time. With the price of of T2 modules increasing with the demand being fairly inelastic .
That means the potential gain for those making such modules will increase substantially .
Ultimately the TSS of the society remains unchanged .
(Thank you Dr Eyjo)

To the average joe , inflation may SEEM like a bad thing, but to the economy as a whole (ie: 0.0 corporations - essentially separatist states)
High inflation lowers the value of our money so we can get fewer goods and services for each dollar.
This MAY seem bad , but we have the inflationary spiral on our side. This happens when prices rise, so firms have more profits, so they hire more miners from high sec, this sends their income up, so people have more money to spend on higher priced goods, so demand increases, and the prices keep going up. As T2 products only comes through research , this also means that researching becomes a profitable profession.
THEY TOO gain.

As productions are often MAGNITUDES more flexible than purchases. The final REAL output of the universe increase and EVERYONE gains.
As long as it doesn't go into SUPER inflation.... (Thats why we need to control the AMOUNT of reimbursement - note: Implants comes from nothing but sell for something too)

In the end , all it comes down to is moderation and control .
WHICH!
I believe Dr Ejyo will know what is appropriate and what is not.

Considering since the establishment of OTEC and CCP's macro economic manipulation via the PLEX systems have shown time and time again , their power at stabilizing the economy.
I believe the impact of this "Implant insurance" system will be minisuce in EvE terms.


So ... do you think this will be a good idea?
Or do you have some thoughts of your own you would like to share?

Please discuss down below in the reply sessionSmile

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Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
#2 - 2013-02-20 00:32:13 UTC
No

The Tears Must Flow

baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#3 - 2013-02-20 00:34:20 UTC
No
Kate stark
#4 - 2013-02-20 00:38:33 UTC
aren't pods just fancy SP insurance? so you want insurance for your insurance?

yo dawg, we put some insurance in your insurance?

Yay, this account hasn't had its signature banned. or its account, if you're reading this.

Sura Sadiva
Entropic Tactical Crew
#5 - 2013-02-20 00:38:49 UTC
No.
The dead know only one thing: it is better to be alive.
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#6 - 2013-02-20 00:40:11 UTC
Has anyone said No yet? Because if not, No.

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?

Ptraci
3 R Corporation
#7 - 2013-02-20 00:44:11 UTC
Ivy Romanova wrote:


Please discuss.


There is absolutely nothing stopping you from doing it. It doesn't have to be done via CCP.
Karl Hobb
Imperial Margarine
#8 - 2013-02-20 01:01:48 UTC
Sura Sadiva wrote:
No.
The dead know only one thing: it is better to be alive.

Oooooh, I like that one. Nice.

A professional astro-bastard was not available so they sent me.

Karl Hobb
Imperial Margarine
#9 - 2013-02-20 01:03:14 UTC
Ptraci wrote:
There is absolutely nothing stopping you from doing it. It doesn't have to be done via CCP.

OP, I am now offering premium life insurance. You send me ISK equal to the value of your implants and I pay you 25% of that when you next get podded.

A professional astro-bastard was not available so they sent me.

Acac Sunflyier
The Ascended Academy
#10 - 2013-02-20 01:40:17 UTC
Insurance scams are best scams
Psyche Atheos
Brown Operatives - L'Indian Division
Lollipops.
#11 - 2013-02-20 01:41:01 UTC
no.
Orlacc
#12 - 2013-02-20 01:42:28 UTC
Ptraci wrote:
Ivy Romanova wrote:


Please discuss.


There is absolutely nothing stopping you from doing it. It doesn't have to be done via CCP.


This. Let's face it all Insurance is a scam.

"Measure Twice, Cut Once."

Ivy Romanova
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#13 - 2013-02-20 02:03:33 UTC
Orlacc wrote:
Ptraci wrote:
Ivy Romanova wrote:


Please discuss.


There is absolutely nothing stopping you from doing it. It doesn't have to be done via CCP.


This. Let's face it all Insurance is a scam.

we already have
1400mm to the face is not a pre-existing condition.
And I don't see how is this different from the ship insurance

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Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
#14 - 2013-02-20 03:32:27 UTC
I only say no because it would be really awkward walking into a life insurance office to collect a payment for you own death.

http://youtu.be/t0q2F8NsYQ0

RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#15 - 2013-02-20 04:19:37 UTC  |  Edited by: RubyPorto
Yes?


PS Don't ask two questions in one post.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon

Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
#16 - 2013-02-20 05:54:45 UTC
No.

See below.

Remove standings and insurance.

Emma Royd
Maddled Gommerils
#17 - 2013-02-20 07:54:51 UTC
I see lots of no's but no reason why not.


The op has a point, you can insure your ship for a payout when it goes to the great minmatar resources yard in the sky (although T2 ship insurance is a waste of isk since the payouts are laughable) so why can't you insure your implants?

Just interested since nobody seemed to be willing to put a comment after they wrote no, maybe they'd used up their bitterness quota for the day Blink
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#18 - 2013-02-20 08:11:24 UTC
Emma Royd wrote:
I see lots of no's but no reason why not.


The op has a point, you can insure your ship for a payout when it goes to the great minmatar resources yard in the sky (although T2 ship insurance is a waste of isk since the payouts are laughable) so why can't you insure your implants?

Just interested since nobody seemed to be willing to put a comment after they wrote no, maybe they'd used up their bitterness quota for the day Blink


The insurance system is based on the average price of minerals. Since implants aren't made with minerals...
This also explains why T2 & T3 insurance doesn't pay out an amount that makes it worth it.

Apart from that, the game doesn't need another huge isk faucet.

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Ivy Romanova
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#19 - 2013-02-20 08:52:46 UTC
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Emma Royd wrote:
I see lots of no's but no reason why not.


The op has a point, you can insure your ship for a payout when it goes to the great minmatar resources yard in the sky (although T2 ship insurance is a waste of isk since the payouts are laughable) so why can't you insure your implants?

Just interested since nobody seemed to be willing to put a comment after they wrote no, maybe they'd used up their bitterness quota for the day Blink


The insurance system is based on the average price of minerals. Since implants aren't made with minerals...
This also explains why T2 & T3 insurance doesn't pay out an amount that makes it worth it.

Apart from that, the game doesn't need another huge isk faucet.


Almost all implants comes from LP stores or loot drops.
For the LP store implants.
The isk needed fhe implant shall be reimbursed , when the Slave, snake and the sort , will be reimbursed at 50% market price

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Sura Sadiva
Entropic Tactical Crew
#20 - 2013-02-20 10:07:40 UTC
Ivy Romanova wrote:

Almost all implants comes from LP stores or loot drops.
For the LP store implants.
The isk needed fhe implant shall be reimbursed , when the Slave, snake and the sort , will be reimbursed at 50% market price



Doesn't matter. It's still a way to reduce consequences and death penalities, and this is why "no" for me.
of course from a single player perspective one could say "oh, why not, I got some more ISK, it's cool" but is not so if one see it from an overall perspective . It's all about what kind of game we want.

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