Jita Park Speakers Corner

I'm quite sure that my actual positions are easily distinguishable from those of the several varieties of trolls who have come to visit (thanks for the free bumps, guys, your hard work is much appreciated), but should there be any doubt, I have a post on page one of the thread that links to my most topical replies.

Thanks for reminding me to mention it, Snow Axe. I owe you one, buddy!


I think you mean turn me into Kcarab Amabo, don't you?

The new system does not allow "unorganized groups the ability to organically and automatically coordinate their voting almost as well as the organized groups."

As to all highsec voters, no not all.

Its always an emotional time for me, when I see a goon make a friend.



Well your crowd sourcing initiative, was kind of a massive stimulus project. You won't join me in trolling, much like Barack, wouldn't do that. You also support new players, same as Barack, supporting small business. Even a CSM is kind of like a community organizer, which Barack was before his time in government.

Exactly; they are two separate but related issues. Changing the election to STV makes the results more representative of the electorate. Increasing turnout makes the electorate more representative of the community.

They are the peanut and the jelly in the great sandwich of representative democracy.

EVE is such a complex game that I would never be so sanguine. I have absolutely no doubt that CCP will make some mistakes in the future, perhaps significant ones. But I am reasonably confident that they are less likely to do so now than in the past, and that they are better able to react when things go wrong.

(PS: sorry for the delayed response to your post)

I (like practically every serious CSM candidate) favor some significant attention being given to rebalancing of all of nullsec -- not just moon goo but all the income sources -- as part of the process of moving to an economy based on bottom-up income. If the drone regions get "fixed", it will be as part of a package of changes that affect all of nullsec, because that's simply the way to get the most bang for the developer buck.

What I would like to see that package of changes do:

* Move income sources to bottom-up active gathering -- so you've got to be in space in spaceships doing spaceship stuff in space.

* Rebalance resources on a regional level so that the overall income disparity is reduced between regions -- but not eliminated.

* Rebalance resources within a region so that income disparity within regions is actually increased -- for particular income sources.

So there would be no regions that were the best at everything, but some regions would be known for being rich in certain resources but poorer in others. But within a region that was, say, bad for mining there might be a constellation that had seriously tasty rocks.

Another way of putting it would be that I think that base system quality should be multi-dimensional, so as to increase the number of ecological niches that groups can live in -- and fight over.

It might also be interesting to contemplate extending this idea not just to income sources but also other activities. What if there were constellations or systems where refining yields were slightly better, or manufacturing could be done slightly faster?

SHHHHH! Poetic. Trebor is our mole man. He likes the normal ideas everyone has about null sec, but you can obviously tell he doesn't really support null sec. We need one of those people next to CCP.

If you were to reconnect with the game Trebor. Would you go the pvp route, that CCP and poetic and some players propose the game to be? Or would you do another route? Like in the advertising for PLEX and perhaps the game, CCP hints at empire building or at least going forward in the game with strong goals. I really don't think there is too much of that in the game really, and only advertisers are supported of that. But who knows.

Also another question.

Do you think that the players have a good concept of CCP and game design? Seems you have to sacrifice something to gain something. Or since your an anime fan, the alchemy rules really.

I mean in a amateur view it seems the players have a good grasp of game design. CCP and other companies are forced to close down certain aspects of the game to open up new aspects. Or equivalent exchange. Most people who like the bland null sec ideas, only see them happening if the bland hi sec is destroyed in the process. Equivalent Exchange, and most game companies do that, to make new content. It does seem hard to convince CCP of this trade. Probably because of how overall bland it is.

But you are the players spokesperson, so what exciting and innovative part of the game would you sacrifice to make null sec more exciting and innovative.

I don't know about Poe but Trebor is a bad candidate because he wants World of EVE: Theme Park edition where everyone loves each other and we fight with rainbow turrets and pony launchers. I don't care if he's Shakespeare, no amount of communications skills can excuse that.

Regardless of the reasons, I'm glad to see your sig is now encouraging people to vote instead of calling it a waste of time.

I just want to take the opportunity to turn this straw man argument about how Trebor wants to turn Eve into a theme park MMO into something constructive, because I think there is a point being missed here by a lot of people.

Even if you disagree with Trebor's opinions you want Trebor on the CSM. He's the major part of the reason why the CSM has the influence it does. He's fought for years to make sure the CSM is actually listened to. He puts in countless hours behind the scenes to make sure everyone's voice is heard, not just his. Even if Trebor isn't 'your guy', putting Trebor on your vote behind the candidate of your choice is a smart move, because it's only going to make the candidate of your choice that much stronger because Trebor makes the entire CSM stronger.

There is a reason why half of CSM7 is strongly endorsing him even if they don't all agree on every opinion he has. Alekseyev Karrde of Noir. for example. As a Mercenary group, Noir has a vested interest in High Sec PvP, yet Alekseyev has endorsed Trebor. It's not just about electing the people whose opinions you agree with, it's about electing a strong CSM that will have the influence needed to stand up to CCP and let our voices be heard. Even if you got in a full slate of guys who 100% agree with every opinion you have, it's worthless if they can't communicate those ideas to CCP and provide strong feedback.

I think people are way to focused on 'platforms' and treating the CSM election like you are electing a legislative body that is going to propose laws. That's not really what the CSM does. You want strong candidates who are going to work hard, because that's going to count for more in the end. This CSM class is going to be full of untested candidates. The stability of a proven hard worker who has experience on the CSM is going to be even more valuable this time around than it has been before.