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THX-1138 4EB

Deep Core Mining Inc.

Caldari State

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#1 - 2013-02-19 22:31:24 UTC | Edited by: THX-1138 4EB

I've searched Google and Youtube but can't find or have missed this one.

I'm testing PI on my first planet with modest results and am concerned about moving the CC:

1. What happens to the facilities when you're 'done' with a planet?
2. Can I 'take the CC with me' to another planet?
3. Will one CC work for an entire planet or do I have to move it around to get closer to resources?

Gratitude.

Let us be thankful we have commerce. Buy more. Buy more now. Buy. And be happy.

Krixtal Icefluxor

INLAND EMPIRE Galactic

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#2 - 2013-02-19 23:06:33 UTC

THX-1138 4EB wrote:

Once planted a Command Center must stay right where it is. It can only be deleted.

All other facilities can be deleted and new ones placed elsewhere on the planet (they do not have to be connected to the CC).

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck." - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882


THX-1138 4EB Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State Likes received: 20	#3 - 2013-02-19 23:24:47 UTC 1 That's what I needed to know. Thanks. Let us be thankful we have commerce. Buy more. Buy more now. Buy. And be happy.

Skyline Federation 504
Inkarr Hashur Skyline Federation Likes received: 504	#4 - 2013-02-20 01:54:46 UTC 1 There's no reason at all to move the CC because distance from it to your other pins doesn't matter. You don't connect anything to your CC. Or you could, but it would be silly.


Krixtal Icefluxor INLAND EMPIRE Galactic Likes received: 114,583	#5 - 2013-02-20 02:51:18 UTC 1 Inkarr Hashur wrote: There's no reason at all to move the CC ............ You can't move it. Period. You must buy another and place it after deleting the old. Besides, the question was answered. "He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck." - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882

Daigunzen

The Scope

Gallente Federation

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#6 - 2013-02-20 06:39:09 UTC

Inkarr Hashur wrote:

There's no reason at all to move the CC because distance from it to your other pins doesn't matter. You don't connect anything to your CC. Or you could, but it would be silly.

When you double click on the planet from your Science and Industry window, it auto-centers around your command center.
That's why I always try to put my command center just under where my factories are going to be..

Just sayin... :p

Styth spiting

Brutor Tribe

Minmatar Republic

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#7 - 2013-02-20 09:28:55 UTC | Edited by: Styth spiting

Inkarr Hashur wrote:

There's no reason at all to move the CC because distance from it to your other pins doesn't matter. You don't connect anything to your CC. Or you could, but it would be silly.

Actually since when you first open the planet mode window to view a planet (that you have a CC on) it will automatically rotate your screen and zoom in to your command center. This means if you re-locate all your structures to a different part of the planet every time you view it you will need to stop the camera very quickly, or zoom out, move your camera around, fiddle with the coloring so you can see your structures, and then manually move to / zoom in. So not having to deal with the camera moving to and zooming into the opposite side of the planet is a very good reason to want to move your command center.

And if you don't think having to manually find and zoom into your factories / extractors is a burden then you obviously have never had a setup on an ice planet before.

Krixtal Icefluxor

INLAND EMPIRE Galactic

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#8 - 2013-02-20 13:33:26 UTC | Edited by: Krixtal Icefluxor

Styth spiting wrote:

Inkarr Hashur wrote:

There's no reason at all to move the CC because distance from it to your other pins doesn't matter. You don't connect anything to your CC. Or you could, but it would be silly.

It's just really not that big of a deal.

Maybe, don't use Ice Planets then ?

Edit: Also, just buy another Command Center. Or can one not spare 150,000 ISK ?

I'm just hearing whining.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck." - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882

Styth spiting

Brutor Tribe

Minmatar Republic

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#9 - 2013-02-20 13:43:59 UTC

Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:

Styth spiting wrote:

Inkarr Hashur wrote:

There's no reason at all to move the CC because distance from it to your other pins doesn't matter. You don't connect anything to your CC. Or you could, but it would be silly.

It's just really not that big of a deal.

Maybe, don't use Ice Planets then ?

Edit: Also, just buy another Command Center. Or can one not spare 150,000 ISK ?

I'm just hearing whining.

He said there was no reason and I gave him one.

150,000isk? Try 150,000 Plus the 6m isk lost from upgrades, plus losing everything on plant, most likely another 5m-10m isk and any PI materials, because when you remove a command center, everything on the planet is destroyed.

I'm just hearing someone who doesn't know what they are apparently talking about.

Krixtal Icefluxor

INLAND EMPIRE Galactic

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#10 - 2013-02-20 14:19:26 UTC

Styth spiting wrote:

Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:

Styth spiting wrote:

Inkarr Hashur wrote:

There's no reason at all to move the CC because distance from it to your other pins doesn't matter. You don't connect anything to your CC. Or you could, but it would be silly.

It's just really not that big of a deal.

Maybe, don't use Ice Planets then ?

Edit: Also, just buy another Command Center. Or can one not spare 150,000 ISK ?

I'm just hearing whining.

Your last sentence is idiotic. Really not smart.

And I'm still just hearing whining, now about the cost of upgrades.

Free games with no monetary system are that way

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck." - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882

Bugsy VanHalen

Society of lost Souls

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#11 - 2013-02-20 14:27:17 UTC

Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:

It's just really not that big of a deal.

Maybe, don't use Ice Planets then ?

Edit: Also, just buy another Command Center. Or can one not spare 150,000 ISK ?

I'm just hearing whining.

Its not buying the command center that is a problem, but the cost of upgrading it to a level 5 CC. If you start destroying your CC just to move it, your profits will quickly be eaten up by the millions of isk spent on upgrading then after you move them. To tear down all my facilities and rebuild them would cost me about 200 million isk.

I have many planets where over time my operation has moved well away from the command center. After a few times updating the facilities on the planet you know which direction to scroll from your CC and it really is not a big deal. I have a couple planets where the CC is on the opposite side of the planet from my facilities. Everything else can be deleted and moved at will. Even moving a launch pad is not a huge cost compared to the CC. But moving a level 4-5 CC when it does not have to be moved is just a waste of isk. Although with how much the CPU/PG of the links have been reduced and there capacity increased, you can have links going half way around the planet without a massive cost.

Hae Sung

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#12 - 2013-02-20 16:39:56 UTC

Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:

Your last sentence is idiotic. Really not smart.

And I'm still just hearing whining, now about the cost of upgrades.

Free games with no monetary system are that way

Now you're just being snarky. If you're updating more than a handful of planets having to scan around for the factories can add quite a bit of time.

A reason was requested and a fairly good reason was given. Play nice.

Fluffi Flaffi

Royal Amarr Institute

Amarr Empire

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#13 - 2013-02-21 09:00:53 UTC

@Styth spiting & Hae Sung:

Just ignore Krixtal Icefluxor. Quite often he has no clue about details and how to organise things the best way. I've discussed in the past quite often with him on Mining topics. It was just not worth the time. Believe me. Just correct him 1 time to keep newbies informed the right way and then ignore him. ;)

I would be pleased as well if CCP would introduce something like a bookmark you can place on the planet by yourself on which the first zooming in takes place, because I often move my factories as well on my plantes and I hate it to search for them, when they are not close to the CC.

Zifrian

The Frog Pond

Ribbit.

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#14 - 2013-02-21 11:25:36 UTC | Edited by: Zifrian

Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:

Styth spiting wrote:

Inkarr Hashur wrote:

There's no reason at all to move the CC because distance from it to your other pins doesn't matter. You don't connect anything to your CC. Or you could, but it would be silly.

It's just really not that big of a deal.

Maybe, don't use Ice Planets then ?

Edit: Also, just buy another Command Center. Or can one not spare 150,000 ISK ?

I'm just hearing whining.

Getting a new command center in nullsec isn't as easy as making a few hops through concord protected space to the nearest station at NPC prices.

Why do you get so defensive? If it's a game, as you so aptly pointed out, why so serious? Sometimes you just need to suck it up and admit you didn't think of something or sometimes, admit you were wrong. Notice how there are at least 5 other reasons in this thread that you wouldn't want to move a command center? This would be one of those times.

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Krixtal Icefluxor INLAND EMPIRE Galactic Likes received: 114,583	#15 - 2013-02-21 15:55:43 UTC 1 Upgrading Command Centers is a much needed ISK sink. "He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck." - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882

Krixtal Icefluxor

INLAND EMPIRE Galactic

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#16 - 2013-02-21 15:57:15 UTC

Fluffi Flaffi wrote:

Excuse me, but I posted absolutely no incorrect information at all. AT ALL.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck." - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882

Inkarr Hashur

Skyline Federation

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#17 - 2013-02-22 02:34:55 UTC

Styth spiting wrote:

Inkarr Hashur wrote:

There's no reason at all to move the CC because distance from it to your other pins doesn't matter. You don't connect anything to your CC. Or you could, but it would be silly.

You can grab the planet during the initial rotation animation and stop that silly and long animation from playing in the first place, and just drag over to your factories instead of letting the screen zoom in on a useless pin like a CC

Just saying.

Bugsy VanHalen

Society of lost Souls

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#18 - 2013-02-22 14:34:37 UTC

Inkarr Hashur wrote:

Styth spiting wrote:

Inkarr Hashur wrote:

There's no reason at all to move the CC because distance from it to your other pins doesn't matter. You don't connect anything to your CC. Or you could, but it would be silly.

I always find after 4-5 times updating cycles at a planet I know where my facilities are in comparison to my CC, and I have about 40 active planets. Many of my planets the CC is no where near the launch pad. As I move facilities around chasing nodes, I often end up on the far side of the planet. Sure this is annoying the first few times, but once you get used to it it makes no difference. Like Inkarr already said, you can also grab the planet as it zooms in and spin it to your facilities, regardless of where your CC is. I have done this so many times I don't even think about it any more, it is automatic for me. Waiting for the animation to zoom in to your CC is just a waste of time.

Many of my facilities are so spread out I prefer to keep the planet zoomed out a fair bit anyway. It is often very worthwhile to sacrifice a couple of heads for a longer link to get the ECU close to a better node. On some planets an ECU with 4 heads out on a good node with pull in more then a ECU with 8 heads out on a poor node. It is worth while to stretch a link half way around the planet if there are no good nodes near by. Especially when pulling two resources on the same planet to make P2. the matching P0's you need are rarely close together.

Fluffi Flaffi

Royal Amarr Institute

Amarr Empire

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#19 - 2013-02-25 15:09:18 UTC

Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:

Fluffi Flaffi wrote:

Excuse me, but I posted absolutely no incorrect information at all. AT ALL.

No, that's right. I didn't said anything like this. But that doesn't mean your posts are worth to read or in any matter useful.

1+1=2. but this information doesn't help somebody in this topic. Nevertheless I did not post any incorrect information. Did you get it? ;)

Your advice to don't use ice planets is soo useless and kind of trolling. damn, i replied twice to you. I broke my own rule. Take care.