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Is 0.0 all about RMT?

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Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#61 - 2011-10-12 19:24:28 UTC
Jaroslav Unwanted wrote:
botting is not essentially equal to RMT

Just thought i would write it there.

They're both against the EULA so what's your point?

Sky Captain of Your Heart

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Gogurt
#62 - 2011-10-12 19:28:37 UTC
Cipher Jones wrote:
Why would there be goon damage control in an RMT thread? That makes no sense at all...


UNLESS...


I think you're on to something...
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
#63 - 2011-10-12 19:30:39 UTC
Lyris Nairn wrote:
Cipher Jones wrote:
Why would there be goon damage control in an RMT thread? That makes no sense at all...


UNLESS...

Cheese it, he's onto us!

e: This isn't damage control; this is me being bored in lecture.


I hear BP is hiring.

internet spaceships

are serious business sir.

and don't forget it

Renan Ruivo
Forcas armadas
Brave Collective
#64 - 2011-10-12 19:32:40 UTC
Cipher Jones wrote:
Lyris Nairn wrote:
Cipher Jones wrote:
Why would there be goon damage control in an RMT thread? That makes no sense at all...


UNLESS...

Cheese it, he's onto us!

e: This isn't damage control; this is me being bored in lecture.


I hear BP is hiring.


British Petroleum?

The world is a community of idiots doing a series of things until it explodes and we all die.

Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#65 - 2011-10-12 19:41:00 UTC
Lyris Nairn wrote:
Jaroslav Unwanted wrote:
botting is not essentially equal to RMT

Just thought i would write it there.

They're both against the EULA so what's your point?


Do i have to have one ? Well i could try.

botting - someone, somewhere runs multiple accounts/payed to generate isk - main purpose / suspect RMT

RMT - is actuall transfer of said in-game assets for real-life value such as currency or something else doesnt really matter
/joke/ If you pay isk to your dentist for taking out all of your teeth is it considered real money trading ? he does not give you anything he takes teeth from you. /

so lets see its just about moral relativity actually

someone somewhere play 20hrs a day and "selling" isk to in-game/or and real life "friends". He is present at the computer whole and he makes below average wage /at eastern Europe regions .

its kind of different league to

ISK selling sites where the currency is bought by stolen credit cards/fraud/real life crime and generated by stealing all of your **** from your account selling and reprocessing all.

And ofc tinfoil hattery when all of the big alliances out there are engaged in RMT in massive ******* level that even blind person can see it and fun part is its allways the one who is currently near the top or is moving that way and its allways from those who currently lost or going to lose.

But anyway who reads EULA apart those who playing the "i am smart" card on the forums.






Renan Ruivo
Forcas armadas
Brave Collective
#66 - 2011-10-12 19:41:57 UTC
I heard a guy quit his job to play EVE, and his lifestyle didn't get any slower. EVE's RMT market also moves a shitload of $$$$ so that ought to be coming from somewhere...

The world is a community of idiots doing a series of things until it explodes and we all die.

ZynnLee Akkori
Perkone
Caldari State
#67 - 2011-10-12 19:42:11 UTC
Kitty McKitty wrote:
CCP Zymurgist wrote:
RMT, Real Money Trading, is very much against the EULA. If you suspect anyone of participating in these activities please file a petition and report them to the GMs with any details you have.


Please investigate everyone in 0.0, you can't really miss by picking at random to be honest, but you wont do that since you want the subs.

This
Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#68 - 2011-10-12 19:47:11 UTC
Jaroslav Unwanted wrote:

But anyway who reads EULA apart those who playing the "i am smart" card on the forums.

No one, not even those playing the "I am smart" card on the forums.

Sky Captain of Your Heart

Reddit: lyris_nairn Skype: lyris.nairn Twitter: @lyris_nairn

Sara XIII
The Carnifex Corp
#69 - 2011-10-12 19:53:26 UTC
Forgive me for being new but, isn't there any kind of CCP oversight out in the big alliance zones?

Also, how do you recognize a bot? And what's the best way to infiltrate alliance spaces?

Between Ignorance and Wisdom
rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
#70 - 2011-10-12 20:22:21 UTC
If you want to learn how to RMT without breaking the EULA just send me a PM. Lots of non bannable isk out there to be obtained.

Signature removed for inappropriate language - CCP Eterne

Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#71 - 2011-10-12 20:24:56 UTC
Sara XIII wrote:
Forgive me for being new but, isn't there any kind of CCP oversight out in the big alliance zones?

Also, how do you recognize a bot? And what's the best way to infiltrate alliance spaces?



well in null sec you probably wont. Since once you get in local they either logs off or warp under FF.

Even if you would probably never met bots within your alliance either since they are "hidden away" and if you get high enough in command you could or maybe not know about them however by that time you will be in "game"
Kengutsi Akira
Doomheim
#72 - 2011-10-12 20:40:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Kengutsi Akira
Baver Juice wrote:
Is it true that a handful of people, through their alliances, control 50% of null sec space, and are using this position to engage in RMT?


Actually I believe its more. 69% last I saw

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r188/buddahcjcc/DCF.png

edit: its 72% my bad

"Is it fair that CCP can get away with..." :: checks ownership on the box ::

Yes

Anela Cistine
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#73 - 2011-10-12 21:01:42 UTC
Sara XIII wrote:
Forgive me for being new but, isn't there any kind of CCP oversight out in the big alliance zones?

Also, how do you recognize a bot? And what's the best way to infiltrate alliance spaces?




CCP is everywhere. There are no NPC police, but the GMs are everywhere.

Getting into alliance space is easy, and I'm not just saying that because I want to shoot you. The cheap option is a covops. You fly around cloaked, don't fly directly from one gate to the next (to avoid bubbles) and keep your scanner going. Pr0 blackops people can easily run hostile gate camps in a covops to get a covert cyno deep into enemy territory. The expensive option is a T3 cruiser with a cloak and an interdiction nullifier. With the interdiction nulifier bubbles can't touch you, so running a nullsec gate camp is no more difficult than a lowsec gate camp. Once you get past the gateway systems, you are unlikely to encounter a camp or roaming gang and travel is reasonably safe.

If you have never run a gate camp before, you should practice before you go to nullsec in an expensive ship. Get yourself a stack of cheap fast frigates and try getting in and out of lowsec gateway systems. You'll die, but eventually you should get the hang of it. It is a rush.
EVE Stig
Doomheim
#74 - 2011-10-12 21:09:14 UTC  |  Edited by: EVE Stig
Anela Cistine wrote:
Sara XIII wrote:
Forgive me for being new but, isn't there any kind of CCP oversight out in the big alliance zones?

Also, how do you recognize a bot? And what's the best way to infiltrate alliance spaces?




CCP is everywhere. There are no NPC police, but the GMs are everywhere.

Getting into alliance space is easy, and I'm not just saying that because I want to shoot you. The cheap option is a covops. You fly around cloaked, don't fly directly from one gate to the next (to avoid bubbles) and keep your scanner going. Pr0 blackops people can easily run hostile gate camps in a covops to get a covert cyno deep into enemy territory. The expensive option is a T3 cruiser with a cloak and an interdiction nullifier. With the interdiction nulifier bubbles can't touch you, so running a nullsec gate camp is no more difficult than a lowsec gate camp. Once you get past the gateway systems, you are unlikely to encounter a camp or roaming gang and travel is reasonably safe.

If you have never run a gate camp before, you should practice before you go to nullsec in an expensive ship. Get yourself a stack of cheap fast frigates and try getting in and out of lowsec gateway systems. You'll die, but eventually you should get the hang of it. It is a rush.


Yes, listen and trust the Goon lol
http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/verite/20111011.png

See, as far as Ive ever heard, DRF is goons, test alliance please ignore, red alliance, shadow of xxdeathxx, along with any alliance with RED in its name. If you look at just that, that 72% number doesnt seem so silly anymore
My question is what happens when 72% becomes 100% and those 0.0 pilots dont have anything to shoot at anymore and start getting bored?

"Some say that he is actually dead, but the Grim Reaper is too afraid to tell him." "Some say he is the 3rd member of Daft Punk and he did the vocals of "Technologic" song. All we know is,he's called EVE Stig"!

Barbelo Valentinian
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#75 - 2011-10-12 21:32:47 UTC
I thought everybody knew that EVE is just a money-laundering operation for the Russian Mafia? Bear
Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#76 - 2011-10-12 21:37:59 UTC
EVE Stig wrote:
Anela Cistine wrote:
Sara XIII wrote:
Forgive me for being new but, isn't there any kind of CCP oversight out in the big alliance zones?

Also, how do you recognize a bot? And what's the best way to infiltrate alliance spaces?




CCP is everywhere. There are no NPC police, but the GMs are everywhere.

Getting into alliance space is easy, and I'm not just saying that because I want to shoot you. The cheap option is a covops. You fly around cloaked, don't fly directly from one gate to the next (to avoid bubbles) and keep your scanner going. Pr0 blackops people can easily run hostile gate camps in a covops to get a covert cyno deep into enemy territory. The expensive option is a T3 cruiser with a cloak and an interdiction nullifier. With the interdiction nulifier bubbles can't touch you, so running a nullsec gate camp is no more difficult than a lowsec gate camp. Once you get past the gateway systems, you are unlikely to encounter a camp or roaming gang and travel is reasonably safe.

If you have never run a gate camp before, you should practice before you go to nullsec in an expensive ship. Get yourself a stack of cheap fast frigates and try getting in and out of lowsec gateway systems. You'll die, but eventually you should get the hang of it. It is a rush.


Yes, listen and trust the Goon lol
http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/verite/20111011.png

See, as far as Ive ever heard, DRF is goons, test alliance please ignore, red alliance, shadow of xxdeathxx, along with any alliance with RED in its name. If you look at just that, that 72% number doesnt seem so silly anymore
My question is what happens when 72% becomes 100% and those 0.0 pilots dont have anything to shoot at anymore and start getting bored?

We then proceed to shoot up the fine people in high-security space.

Sky Captain of Your Heart

Reddit: lyris_nairn Skype: lyris.nairn Twitter: @lyris_nairn

Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#77 - 2011-10-12 21:41:01 UTC
I am personally looking forward to the day we unite all of null sec toward the goal of burning EVE to the ground.

Sky Captain of Your Heart

Reddit: lyris_nairn Skype: lyris.nairn Twitter: @lyris_nairn

EVE Stig
Doomheim
#78 - 2011-10-12 21:51:06 UTC  |  Edited by: EVE Stig
Jaroslav Unwanted wrote:

But anyway who reads EULA apart those who playing the "i am smart" card on the forums.


Or the forum rules but they dont enforce those anyways... unless someone makes a thread complaining that they dont, then the blues will show up there to pretend that they do lol

Lyris Nairn wrote:
I am personally looking forward to the day we unite all of null sec toward the goal of burning EVE to the ground.


Got a great idea on that, unite it all then declare war on Empire. I bet youd win lol

"Some say that he is actually dead, but the Grim Reaper is too afraid to tell him." "Some say he is the 3rd member of Daft Punk and he did the vocals of "Technologic" song. All we know is,he's called EVE Stig"!

Carceret Rinah
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#79 - 2011-10-12 22:09:03 UTC
Lyris Nairn wrote:
I am personally looking forward to the day we unite all of null sec toward the goal of burning EVE to the ground.


If you really wanted to destroy EVE you wouldn't be playing. You'd be busy learning and/or acquiring the resources to DDOS the login server into the next decade.
Sara XIII
The Carnifex Corp
#80 - 2011-10-12 23:10:17 UTC
Anela Cistine wrote:
Sara XIII wrote:
Forgive me for being new but, isn't there any kind of CCP oversight out in the big alliance zones?

Also, how do you recognize a bot? And what's the best way to infiltrate alliance spaces?




CCP is everywhere. There are no NPC police, but the GMs are everywhere.

Getting into alliance space is easy, and I'm not just saying that because I want to shoot you. The cheap option is a covops. You fly around cloaked, don't fly directly from one gate to the next (to avoid bubbles) and keep your scanner going. Pr0 blackops people can easily run hostile gate camps in a covops to get a covert cyno deep into enemy territory. The expensive option is a T3 cruiser with a cloak and an interdiction nullifier. With the interdiction nulifier bubbles can't touch you, so running a nullsec gate camp is no more difficult than a lowsec gate camp. Once you get past the gateway systems, you are unlikely to encounter a camp or roaming gang and travel is reasonably safe.

If you have never run a gate camp before, you should practice before you go to nullsec in an expensive ship. Get yourself a stack of cheap fast frigates and try getting in and out of lowsec gateway systems. You'll die, but eventually you should get the hang of it. It is a rush.



Thanks for the info Anela! I hope to be trained up by December to make a visit to goon space. I checked the map, we're practically neighbors right now! Blink
Between Ignorance and Wisdom