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The soaring cost of Plex...
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Alice Saki
Nocturnal Romance
Cynosural Field Theory.
#61 - 2013-02-18 15:21:08 UTC
Akira Na'Reece wrote:


At least if you allowed bots to mine.

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Vincent Athena
Photosynth
#62 - 2013-02-18 18:38:36 UTC
The rewards have gone up.

New modules and some buffs now make it faster to do missions and salvage them.

PI allows for passive income. In fact even in high sec if you get all 3 of your pilots doing PI you can keep your account PLEXed from that income alone.

The new mining ships make mining faster for many players, and the market price for minerals has gone up a little as well. (Ice though has tumbled).

If botting was allowed the price of botted materials would drop so far that you could not bot a PLEX.

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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#63 - 2013-02-18 19:01:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Akira Na'Reece wrote:


Clearly I'm now going to spend £19.99 a month and buy game time.


I don't know what game you're playing, but Eve is £10 a month for a single account, and tbh if you can't raise enough isk for PLEX in a couple of hours a day as an older player, you're doing it wrong. Newbies on the other hand are rarely able to afford a PLEX in their first few months, because their income is shite for those first few months.

I live solely in highsec and can raise enough isk for PLEX by doing PvE for an hour a day if I choose to do so. As it is I'd much rather spend that isk on explosions for my alt and give CCP a tenner instead.

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Ana Fox
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#64 - 2013-02-18 19:11:31 UTC
Akira Na'Reece wrote:

Clearly I'm now going to spend £19.99 a month and buy game time.


You can pay sub it cost less you know?

You are whine cause you cant play for "free" and cause of that game is broken .Sub is like 10$ per month ,so that is like nothing .Your problem is that you dont want to pay for game.

Well there is a lot of "free" games ,so you are free to go that way.
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#65 - 2013-02-18 19:17:09 UTC
It's almost as though the OP believes CCP has anything to do with the player dictated price of PLEX.

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Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#66 - 2013-02-18 19:18:23 UTC
Ana Fox wrote:
Akira Na'Reece wrote:

Clearly I'm now going to spend £19.99 a month and buy game time.


You can pay sub it cost less you know?

You are whine cause you cant play for "free" and cause of that game is broken .Sub is like 10$ per month ,so that is like nothing .Your problem is that you dont want to pay for game.

Well there is a lot of "free" games ,so you are free to go that way.


By definition, he's not really playing for free. Someone else is paying his sub.

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Doomheim
#67 - 2013-02-18 19:47:50 UTC
Akira Na'Reece wrote:
Hi everyone,

I've been paying EVE for over 2 years and in that time the cost of buying PLEX in the game has almost doubled in purchase price.

The cost of mining and other game rewards has not gone up to reflect this inflation cost, so can someone shed any light as to why the cost of in-game plex gone up ? Surely with more and more people playing Eve, this cost should have gone down to reflect the swelling numbers of new players and the options available to buy more Plex.

This is frustrating, especially as Eve does not allow the use of bots to mine, so personally I find more and more of my game time, is spent mining, which lets face it, is a very tedious task and can take hours and hours of plain boredom, especialy if you only have 1 character (I have more than 1, however im sure you get my point here).

At least if you allowed bots to mine, they could take some of the tediousness out of the game and allow genuine game play as opposed to spending hours mining over and over just to attempt to be able to buy in game plex.

Has anyone else found the prices in the game for items as generally gone up over the past few years ?

I do apreciate that bots can be exploited and there are forces at large who will take advantage of this. My point here ISNT about bots, its about the rising cost of in game Plex.



It's called less people wanting to pay for the game + way too many alts. And an ever shrinking percentage of people who want to pay for toys with cash....


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Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#68 - 2013-02-18 20:08:07 UTC
I buy tons of em in RL and sell ingame, buy fancy ships and see em go boom, I have no fun coming home from my 8-5 RL work, only to sit down to keep on working ingame for the next months payment, sound abit like RL doesn't it ?? Thats not what this game is about, I want to escape from my RL world and have great fun ingame without having to worry about getting enough ISKies for next month
bufnitza calatoare
#69 - 2013-02-18 20:16:01 UTC
515m per plex seems good to me.. that's what I paid each for 6 a day or two ago.
Obvious Cyno
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#70 - 2013-02-18 20:54:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Obvious Cyno
Players control the plex market. Yell at them not ccp. Big smile
flakeys
Doomheim
#71 - 2013-02-18 21:22:47 UTC
Akira Na'Reece wrote:


the cost of buying PLEX in the game has almost doubled in purchase price.







so personally I find more and more of my game time, is spent mining



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Tesal
#72 - 2013-02-18 21:34:37 UTC
Akira Na'Reece wrote:
Perhaps I should re-phrase my initial thread topic. How about.

Hello all, I've been playing Eve for just over 2 years and mostly do Security level 3 and 4 missions and weekends of mining to supliment my eve ISK account. I usually stay with the high security regions as I find when I venture our, I get basted to crap by dozern of little (word removed) who wait for unsuspecting traders to get beyond safe areas,.

I'm finding it hard to keep up buying the monthly subscriptions of affording around 650 million isk for a month's extention and would welcome tips/comments on how I can raise these funds more quickly without the tedium of mining, transport missions and sec 3 and 4 kill missions within relatively high security systems.

Better.... ?


The Jita sell price for Plex is 530m at the moment and has been trending down. If you are paying 650m you are getting ripped off.
Oxandrolone
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#73 - 2013-02-18 22:14:58 UTC
The economy has massive inflation
Everyone accrues more SP and farms isk easier

the end
Kate stark
#74 - 2013-02-18 22:19:18 UTC
Oxandrolone wrote:
The economy has massive inflation
Everyone accrues more SP and farms isk easier

the end


except more sp =/= more isk.

every activity has a limit where extra SP doesn't translate to extra isk.

takes less than 8 months to max an orca booster, for example, any SP after that doesn't influence isk gain what so ever.
a mining character, easily able to max that out on 3 plex and a power of 2 deal, give or take.

all sp does is increase the variety of ways to make isk, not the accumulation of isk itself.

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Buzzy Warstl
Quantum Flux Foundry
#75 - 2013-02-18 22:19:24 UTC
Every time you post complaining that something must be done about PLEX prices the ghosts of Keynes and Hayek laugh at you in unison.

Your failure to comprehend basic economics is that deep.

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terzslave
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#76 - 2013-02-19 03:55:01 UTC
Mag's wrote:
terzslave wrote:
Akira Na'Reece wrote:
...Snip...


Then they can pay for a subscription. Why should the game get to the a point where everyone is just buying plex? There's already enough inflation in the game as it is.
Are you saying that the trading of a Plex for ISK, causes inflation?


No, I'm saying that raising "rewards" just so people can buy a plex causes inflation.
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#77 - 2013-02-19 03:59:04 UTC
PLEX was an awesome idea... CCP has extracted more tears just with that little action than probably all of the players in Eve Pirate

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Sentamon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#78 - 2013-02-19 04:06:00 UTC
Eto Tekai wrote:
Haha this guy really thinks that if we were all allowed to make AFK isk all day that the price of plex would go down.

What fantasy world do you live in?

Do people really think like this?


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Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
#79 - 2013-02-19 04:09:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Katran Luftschreck
Mackinaw, hi-sec, pulls in about 7 to 8 million ISK per full cargo bay. 35,000m/3 at about 1,500m/3 cycle (I fit tank, not yield), 3 min per cycle = about 1 hour to fill the cargo hold.

3 hours per day = 21 to 28 million ISK per day x 30 days in a month = 630 to 840 million ISK per month.

Average PLEX = around 550 million.

That's with one account using one toon using one unlinked mining barge while browsing lolcats in another window.

I don't see the problem.



Addenum: Switch that a Hulk and join a company with Orca support and you can cut that time to 2 hours or less. Again, doing nothing but mining.


You see, unlike all the insecure dweebs who act like a self-righteous twits on the internet, I'm not telling you not to mine. I'm not even telling you that you're doing it wrong. I'm telling you that what you're probably already doing is just fine and that you should be happy with it, because you're actually getting a pretty good deal: All the perks of F2P without the asinine bullcrap of actual F2P games.

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Nikodiemus
Ganja Clade
Shadow Cartel
#80 - 2013-02-19 04:51:01 UTC
The number of people replying with knowledge they garnered in basic ECON 101 classes required for their POS degree not only astounds but depresses me.