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Cearain
Plus 10 NV
#1 - 2013-02-18 04:42:22 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Cura Ursus
top vp getters (pilots who captured the most plexes) yesterday according to this website:

https://api.eveonline.com/eve/FacWarTopStats.xml.aspx

#1

#2

#3

#4


#5

Draw your own conclusions.

Edit:
Here is another a batch from yesterdays 2/19/2013s top vp:

#1

actually not a bad killboard but not a single kill or death yesterday when he earned the top vp spot! Winning the war with pure pve.

#2

#3

#4

Actually this guy had a good pvp fit. No complaints except no kills or losses the day he earned the #4 vp spot. So its unclear what he was flyign then.

#5

If all the plexers had killboards like the last one I wouldn't have much of an issue. Maybe he is not the greatest pvper, but I'm sure I was no better than him when I was starting out either. But then again I didn't expect that I would be one of the most valuable people in the "war" effort the very first day I made any mark on the killboards.



Please note that posting killmails outside of C&P is prohibited according to the forum rules:
"34. Posting of kill reports outside of the Crime & Punishment forum channel is prohibited."

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X Gallentius
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Spaceship Bebop
#2 - 2013-02-18 06:26:17 UTC
Notification: X Gallentius is currently running a Medium Outpost in Aldranette.

Taoist Dragon
SHAVED
#3 - 2013-02-18 06:45:34 UTC
who cares?

That is the Way, the Tao.

Balance is everything.

IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome
Awesome Alliance
#4 - 2013-02-18 06:46:40 UTC
X Gallentius wrote:
Notification: X Gallentius is currently running a Medium Outpost in Aldranette.




You still there bro?

Is the capitalization from my corp name in there with you ?- it seems to have gone missing.
ALUCARD 1208
Death by Design.
Fraternity.
#5 - 2013-02-18 12:52:30 UTC  |  Edited by: ALUCARD 1208
so u link the stats and there all farmers apart from the fweddit guy great work there but what u did highlight is gallente are down on vp but are still top killers \o/


medium open enaluri
Takseen
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2013-02-18 13:56:13 UTC
If stabbed plex farming is so safe, why are there all those lossmails on their boards?
Cearain
Plus 10 NV
#7 - 2013-02-18 14:19:23 UTC
Takseen wrote:
If stabbed plex farming is so safe, why are there all those lossmails on their boards?


Given the number of pods lost they were probably afk, or had so many alts running at once they died before they noticed.

Keep in mind these are all almost certainly alts so the players don't care about their killboards and the lp they gain will more than pay for their insured empty t1 rigate hulls.

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Cearain
Plus 10 NV
#8 - 2013-02-18 14:20:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Cearain
X Gallentius wrote:
Notification: X Gallentius is currently running a Medium Outpost in Aldranette.




Oh no, X Gallentius the Dominator! Everyone better avoid that system.

Taoist Dragon wrote:
who cares?


Who cares about facts? Not too many people who are still involved with fw sov.

Who cares about fw sov? Very few. Sadly the facts I posted will not be a surprise to most people with a brain. There is a very vocal crew of cheerleaders though.

The question is, does ccp care. If they do then they should either recognize something is wrong, or give this high five a high five.

ALUCARD 1208 wrote:
so u link the stats and there all farmers apart from the fweddit guy great work there but what u did highlight is gallente are down on vp but are still top killers \o/

medium open enaluri


Most kills per pilot yesterday and for the week is amarr as usual. But this isn't about squabling between militias.

You call these guys farmers but they are winning the war.

It's funny to hear people who are losing making derogatory comments about how the people who are winning play the game.

Keep playing how you think it "should" be won, keep ignoring the actual game mechanics, and keep losing.

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Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#9 - 2013-02-18 14:59:59 UTC
Cearain wrote:

You call these guys farmers but they are winning the war.


The war is never fully won or lost. Farmers will always farm.

Cearain wrote:
It's funny to hear people who are losing making derogatory comments about how the people who are winning play the game.


You are the only one complaining, most other people, mostly on the side that is currently losing are just happy with the higher levels of plex related pvp.

Cearain wrote:

Keep playing how you think it "should" be won, keep ignoring the actual game mechanics, and keep losing.


Someone has to lose. It would be nice to make fwsov a soley pvp activity. But even you as the loudest advocate of this have nothing more than an all seeing eye intel tool which would make no difference at all. Beyond that most other people have the humility to admit that farming will occur and suggest small tweaks to hinder farming while not destroying the current climate of more frequent plex pvp.

For example plex timers rolling back and perhaps slightly better tanks on rats to better reflect the size of the plex.
Princess Nexxala
Federal Navy Academy
#10 - 2013-02-18 15:12:38 UTC
Will do;
1. FW is more fun then it's ever been
2. There is more PVP to be had in FW then ever.
3. Farmers gonna farm, if people really cared about them then they would counter them...its simple. However outside of your home system...who honestly gives a ****.
4. You're batshit crazy
Cearain wrote:

Draw your own conclusions.

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X Gallentius
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Spaceship Bebop
#11 - 2013-02-18 15:12:45 UTC
IbanezLaney wrote:
X Gallentius wrote:
Notification: X Gallentius is currently running a Medium Outpost in Aldranette.

You still there bro? Is the capitalization from my corp name in there with you ?- it seems to have gone missing.

I'm back for another 10 minutes or so. Hopefully with this notification somebody will see this message and run me out of the plex. Lol
Cearain
Plus 10 NV
#12 - 2013-02-18 15:16:50 UTC
Crosi Wesdo wrote:
Cearain wrote:

You call these guys farmers but they are winning the war.


The war is never fully won or lost. Farmers will always farm.


Nice defeatist attitude. Its the attitude that got us where we are now.
Crosi Wesdo wrote:

Cearain wrote:
It's funny to hear people who are losing making derogatory comments about how the people who are winning play the game.


You are the only one complaining, most other people, mostly on the side that is currently losing are just happy with the higher levels of plex related pvp.

I'm not complaining, I am posting facts about the current mechanics. I am actually fairly amused that the system is working just like I predicted.

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X Gallentius
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Spaceship Bebop
#13 - 2013-02-18 15:19:10 UTC
Crosi Wesdo wrote:
You are the only one complaining, most other people, mostly on the side that is currently losing are just happy with the higher levels of plex related pvp.
We're not losing! We're "strategically repositioning"!
Cearain
Plus 10 NV
#14 - 2013-02-18 15:19:31 UTC
Crosi Wesdo wrote:
Cearain wrote:

Keep playing how you think it "should" be won, keep ignoring the actual game mechanics, and keep losing.


Someone has to lose. It would be nice to make fwsov a soley pvp activity. But even you as the loudest advocate of this have nothing more than an all seeing eye intel tool which would make no difference at all. .


Keep saying that letting players know where there plexes aren't being taken won't help them defend it. Even though its obviously wrong if you repeat it enough people might start believing it.

Crosi Wesdo wrote:

Beyond that most other people have the humility to admit that farming will occur and suggest small tweaks to hinder farming while not destroying the current climate of more frequent plex pvp.

For example plex timers rolling back and perhaps slightly better tanks on rats to better reflect the size of the plex.



Yes instead of giving players tools so they can defend their space in pvp, lets increase the importance of npcs. That is a good idea - if you want to make faction war even more of a carebear race.

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X Gallentius
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Spaceship Bebop
#15 - 2013-02-18 15:23:49 UTC
I'm in a small stronghold in Oicx now.
Garan Nardieu
Super Serious Fight Club
#16 - 2013-02-18 15:37:07 UTC
X Gallentius wrote:
I'm in a small stronghold in Oicx now.

You actually made me logon to forums and like this post Lol
Cearain
Plus 10 NV
#17 - 2013-02-18 15:49:07 UTC
X Gallentius wrote:
I'm in a small stronghold in Oicx now.



Oh no, X Gallentius the Dominator is in Oicx! Avoid that system.

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Cearain
Plus 10 NV
#18 - 2013-02-18 15:56:16 UTC
Princess Nexxala wrote:
Will do;
1. FW is more fun then it's ever been
2. There is more PVP to be had in FW then ever.


As to whether this is true as compared to before the october 22nd changes I am not so sure. But in any event pvp has nothing to do with sovereignty. And to say it is more fun than when it was agreed by all to be completely broken is not saying much.

Princess Nexxala wrote:

3. Farmers gonna farm, if people really cared about them then they would counter them...its simple. However outside of your home system...who honestly gives a ****..


No one cares. We agree on that.

Princess Nexxala wrote:

4. You're batshit crazy



Another point we can agree on.

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X Gallentius
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Spaceship Bebop
#19 - 2013-02-18 16:08:56 UTC
OK, let's do this right. I have just created a mailing list:

IMINURPLEX

It is open to everybody. Please join and post when you enter a plex, or when you see somebody else entering a plex.
Format:

EVETIME: NAME has entered a PLEX TYPE in SYSTEM.

o/


Princess Nexxala
Federal Navy Academy
#20 - 2013-02-18 16:12:37 UTC
That's way too much work. P


X Gallentius wrote:
OK, let's do this right. I have just created a mailing list:

IMINURPLEX

It is open to everybody. Please join and post when you enter a plex, or when you see somebody else entering a plex.
Format:

EVETIME: NAME has entered a PLEX TYPE in SYSTEM.

o/



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