EVE New Citizens Q&A

Show me another mainstream game that allows for training at the same time.


And there are jobs you can give to your alts which take minimal training.

Basic PI alts (couple days), out-of-corp haulers (few hours), trade-hub price checker, purchased character.

Only training and logging in one at a time also prevents people sharing accounts.
This would obviously be detrimental to the company and therefore the game.
They do offer discounts for alt accounts which is more than fare.
You can even start an alt, train him for a few months, then move him onto your main account.
Win Win!

Exactly.

So even any other MMO, you can't level up 2 characters on the same account cause they can't be logged in at the same time.
So EVE's 1 character training on 1 account isn't all that weird.

This.

Plenty of alts that can be used with minimal training time.

* Contracting alt.
* Price checker (NO training at all, just a move to the system you want him in).
* Cyno alt
* PI alt

And you can buy a character from the bazaar ready trained.
Or make a temporary 2nd account to train him and then transfer him over and close 2nd account.

And lots of people just have multiple accounts (I currently use 6 accounts but at top I had 8 accounts running).

But all in all, you don't have to have alts if you don't need or want them. The main thing you should look for in playing EVE is having fun, which can totally be accomplished with just 1 character.

Your logic is sound, but it's a failed attempt at justification or being "equal" to other games.

In other games, I can take a character from zero to max level in a month and be geared enough for end game content or high level PvP. In Eve, that same amount of time can be spent training skills that give you a 10% improvement over what you already have.

I like the passive skill training, but I hate it at the same time. There needs to be a way to actively improve skills as well, or players need to begin with more than just ~50k skill points. All MMOs are time sinks, but Eve seems to be the ultimate carrot on a stick.

What is this thing called End game you are talking about????

And if you think you need "xxx" mil SP to do something, you are an utter ****** with the IQ of a peanut (not directed towards you personally but the general community who thinks that way).

Training for a frigate, a prop mod and a warp disruptor/scram takes less then 1 day...means you can join in PvP fleets.

My RvB alt was just 5 hours old when he got his first kill and about 5 hours and 10 minute till his first loss.

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And, indeed EVE is all about long term planning, long term goals and long term improvement. Name any other MMO where you still see people playing and advancing their character after 3.5 years. Name any game that after 3.5 years you can still learn something new.

If you want instant gratification...plenty of other MMOs (filled with brainless teenagers) on the market to full fill that need, just don't expect EVE to be mastered in couple of weeks.

There USED to be a way that made you grind skills faster while logged in. It was exploited to hell and back (or VFK and back), luckily CCP noticed this and got rid of it. The current system makes it much more equal and much less prone to Power grinding, XP farming (or SP farming here) or account sharing.

The key to getting this concept to work for you is that you need to recognize that just because a character isn't training RIGHT NOW, doesn't mean it can't be effective. It also doesn't mean a character that isn't even online RIGHT NOW can't be effective either.

Market alts, research alts, PI alts, even a scanning alt. They all very valuable things that don't need you to mulit box to be worth it. With the exception of the scanning alt they all can still be helping to make you money while you play your main.

Wish I could train 2 skills at a time.... not on other characters though

Trade lvl 4: ~22 hours
Retail lvl 4: ~1 day, 20 hours
Procurement lvl 4: ~3 days, 5 hours
Marketing lvl 4 : ~3 days, 5 hours
Contracting lvl 4: ~23.5 hours
Broker Relations lvl 4: ~1 day, 19 hours

Racial Industrial level 5: ~14 days, 15 hours
Transport ships level 4: ~4 days, 2 hours
Electronics level 5: ~5 days, 3 hours
Cloaking level 4: ~5 days, 10 hours.

So about 12 days to be an effective trader (and being a moneymaker) and an additional 24 days to become a good hauler that can cart things around for you in high or low-sec. You will never need to train this alt again unless you need it to do something else.