EVE General Discussion

Eve isn't a kid's T-Ball game where scores aren't kept for fear of making some feel like losers.

A loser is one who quits.

Why you'd like lies is beyond me. Either way; no threat that EVE will go the way of Warhammer Online. The one has had positive growth for 10 years by pandering to it's core market; while the other that tried to be everything to everyone failed in a couple of years.

Why you would support failure is beyond me as well, but hey. You don't get a fruit bowl without some bananas.



Interesting.

Been playing eve since red moon.... Yes eve has evolved.... the community has change.
Don't equate Eve past success with its future, yes it will continue...
In the past older players really did talk with and help new players and got them started even if they were a hardcore ganker....
It was part of your duty as a citizen of EVE. You paid for your "sins" by giving back to the game.
When the last time anyone here struck up a conversation with a noob in a mining belt .... and did anything to help them?

Won't call my self a bitter old vet because I still have too much to learn in EVE but with the attitudes expressed here .... like the OP and many of my old friends.... Eve is not my kind of game... at least not any longer.
There are are still a lot of good people in EVE ... Eve is what you make it..
Five accounts canceled, all toons deleted..... that was harder then I thought......

That's why I am an alt
Some of the fun when scorpions still looked good...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5wQ9pSSfMQ

Fly safe
o7

First ... escape menu ... set UI to 90%.

Second ... run the tutorial missions.

Third ... we don't care, get lost.


(i don't talk to noobs that way ingame, btw ... unless they are totally annoying, like you)

I dunno about mining belts. People probably just assume anyone at a belt is a bot. But a friend of mine who started FW and got killed in a plex was given 20 mill and an offer for fitting advice and stuff.

I didn't check BC, I don't consider it a killboard or good for anything else either tbh.

http://eve-kill.net/ seems to be amongst the most popular, it seems to pick up kills and losses within a few hours of them happening, you'll need to create an API key for it to do so though.

EVE.

Well I'm a fellow newbie and I'd like to chime in with my 2 cents worth.

First of all, don't let the New Order get to you. They are easy enough to avoid if you want to, and even if you do pay them off, 10mm ISK a year(not a day) is chump change compared to what you can make mining. Think of them as the local thugs shaking you down for "protection" money. They like to think of themselves as being on a crusade to protect the integrity of the game in high sec, but that's just part of their immersion in to the game. In reality they are just the local Mob. If you don't want to pay them off, you can usually avoid them by going into lower sec areas of high sec(.7 to .5) especially in areas without a lot of traffic.

If you go to these slightly lower sec systems though, don't just start mining and then leave your computer. There are NPC pirates that spawn in those areas fairly regularly, and if you are off doing your own thing they will kill you. They are easy to run away from but you have to be alert enough to know when they show up.

I like to bring a cruiser and a mining barge to those lower high sec systems and do a run of the belts with my cruiser, killing off pirates before I go to mine. The pirates will respawn so this is not a cure all, but you can get some interesting loot from the pirate wrecks, and you can often equip your ships with what you loot. It's worked well for me so far, but like I said I'm a newbie and this could stop working for me at any time, so I gotta make sure to have back up plans.

Also keep in mind, mining is not the game. You mine to make enough money so that you can go to the more dangerous areas well enough equipped to put up some sort of a fight when you encounter more aggressive players. You'll still get ganked, because just having a bigger ship is not all there is to combat, but at least you can put up a fight. Try to travel with friends if you can, makes it more fun all around no matter what happens.

Last but not least, don't get too attached to your ships. You will get killed, it's part of the game, and if you don't quit when you get killed, you'll get another ship and try again. Even pod death is not the end of the world. You just reclone and try again. Get insurance and a high quality clone and you lose even less from getting killed.

Some aspects of this game are a pain in the a$$ but if the game was too easy, it wouldn't be any fun.

Thanks everyone for their replies. To clarify a few things:

The extortion happened during a break between tutorial missions, three days after we started. It was unrelated to my death in lowsec (I had seen a good price for an item in a lowsec system, set it as my destination, and hit autopilot, not realizing it was lowsec. Never AFK again!). We had just acquired ventures from the industry tutorial. At the time of the creation of this thread I had been playing for I think about 3 weeks.

The guy's name was Pestario Vargas or something like that, and now that duration of the permit has been mentioned, I can't recall him stating whether such a permit would be good for a year or a day. We never actually fought ship to ship, we just left the system on the advice of Rookie Help.

As for those stating that I am not up to the skill challenge of the game: I have and continue to play, mainly due to the fact that I can ask for help in Rookie Help and regular Help chat. How could I play for this long and not have gotten help from chat? The wikis are terrible.

The purpose of my original post was to describe my experience as a new player so that it might contribute to some of the conversation I've seen while lurking this forum. The main point I tried, and perhaps failed, to make was that the game can be incredibly frustrating for the first few weeks, that it is difficult to acquire accurate game info, and that EDIT: perhaps you should let a player be able to learn from their interactions before you interact with them. Like I said, things like low sec and being extorted are fun now that I can learn from them. But three days in they just tipped the scales for my friends into "too confusing and frustrating to play".

Thanks also to the people who have sent me in game mails. All have been friendly and encouraging.

EDIT: It seems like this whole thing is linked to a big movement and a lot of things I don't understand (CSM?). It seems like if you want players to take more risks, someone should reduce the price that you can sell massive and condensed scordite. They sell for more than the low sec resource, jaspet. Make jaspet worth mroe and scordite worth less.