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BREAKING: Huge Meteor Blazes Across Sky Over Russia

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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#41 - 2013-02-16 01:24:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Krixtal Icefluxor
Wodensun wrote:
The rock was estimated to weight about 10 tons and exploded due to friction about 40/50 kilometers above ground the current injured count sits at 1100 people treated at the hospital mostly minor injuries due to flying glass which was blown out by the sonic boom. There is nothing indicating that it is or was part of a cluster so you lads can come out of your bomb shelters now Blink

note: that sonic boom happend as it _entered_ the atmosphere makes it even more incredible.



This whole issue was cleared up in my post #32.

EDIT: Also, to be fair, as the object was a surprise arrival, totally unexpected, a few hours lapsed where it was obviously unclear where it came from exactly.

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NightmareX
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#42 - 2013-02-16 01:48:11 UTC
If you watch this intro from the Armageddon movie, then you listen to what the man says there at 1 minute and 14 seconds: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3nyn_yZQ98

I'm starting to think that might happen earlier than we might think lol.

Here is a list of my current EVE / PVP videos:

1: Asteroid Madness

2: Clash of the Empires

3: Suddenly Spaceships fighting in Tama

Anya Klibor
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#43 - 2013-02-16 03:55:33 UTC
Members of the Russian Kremlin are claiming that what occurred over Russia was not a meteorite, but was a new American weapon test.

You hear that? We now control mofuggin' SPACE ROCKS. Go HAARP! \o/

Leadership is something you learn. Maybe one day, you'll learn that.

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#44 - 2013-02-16 05:20:04 UTC
http://www.mercurynews.com/breaking-news/ci_22602731/meteor-streaks-across-bay-area-skies

This is getting ridiculous today.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882

Lipbite
Express Hauler
#45 - 2013-02-16 05:46:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Lipbite
Amount of (registered) injured is more that 1140, more than 40 people in hospitals, 2 with very serious injures, buildings damaged in 6 towns, power of explosion was between 300 and 500 kilotons (> 20 bombs used in Hiroshima), explosion was at height of ~20km, meteorite mass ~7000 tons, speed around 50-60k km/h.

News article in Russian: http://lenta.ru/news/2013/02/16/power/
Cuchulain Ulster
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#46 - 2013-02-16 05:50:53 UTC
First the end of the Mayan Calendar fizzled, now this. Every time dooms day comes around its a disappointment.
Pr1ncess Alia
Doomheim
#47 - 2013-02-16 10:44:16 UTC
I was just in utter awe of nature's display of power. Amazing.

All my goals and aspirations in life are nothing compared to such a display of power and all I can say is I'm happy I got to see it (if second hand) and I'm glad the impact to those people in that region of Russia wasn't worse (let's face it, if the angle of approach had been more perpendicular it could have been terrible)

I'm not sure people can understand me correctly when I say this, because any loss of innocent human life is a tragedy.

After seeing those videos, can you imagine how awesomely humbling it would be to see a planet cracker hit? There is a beauty that would come with an ELE/near-ELE behind the horror and the finality. To witness the end of our planet's 6B y/o experiment (or at least the reset button?) ?

My father was talking to me last time I was at home. He's as crazy as I am, but he has his insights. He is of the opinion that our current generation is more fatalistic and obsessed with the end of the world/civilization than any before it. And he's wondering what the driving motivations are behind that. He says it started with the same old stories, but it keeps getting hashed over and over to the point the profits (public demand) for these types of movies seem to be driving the creation. And he tied in obsession with zombies and other stuff to this fatalistic theory.

I wasn't sure what to say about that except I thought he was wrong and that it's just another manifestation of our fascination/fear of the mystery of death. I also suggested people are much more vocal about fears as our society seems to be driven (top down) by a culture of fear today.

He's a man of faith (but not religious) and dismissed this (he like that channel that is all fear 24/7) and thinks all this comes back to a basic spiritual bankruptcy... that we obsess over the physical and not the allegedly much more important spiritual. That back in the day if something like this happened they'd just thank their lucky stars and move on with life, but we obsess over the event and what-if scenarios... it's hard to find argument there.

yeah, I think he's wrong... but it's hard to be completely objective when I have to admit I (obviously) have my own morbid curiosity on the subject

and I haven't been exposed to past generations as he has to make a comparison. I can certainly see enough precedent in various works of art to support my theory, so it comes down to a question of popularity/obsession. Are we obsessed with this topic?
mama guru
Yazatas.
#48 - 2013-02-16 13:25:02 UTC
Sturmwolke wrote:
It was intercepted before it hit the ground from the looks of it - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXT_B4kx6YA
Learned something new today : Russian cars have car DVRs installed to record accidents etc. Apparently required by law(?).


You don't intercept meteors. It exploded because of atmospheric entry.

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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#49 - 2013-02-16 13:38:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Krixtal Icefluxor
Maybe if a true Planet Cracker was found to be headed our way, they should actually keep quiet about it ?

Really, what could be done right now about it? And why cause so much grief, panic, and terror ? Better I think to just let the inevitable happen.


EDIT: See Greg Bear's "The Forge of God" for a great example of people's behavior when they know ahead of time that the world is going to utterly end soon.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882

Sebastian N Cain
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#50 - 2013-02-16 19:22:25 UTC
Kirjava wrote:
silens vesica wrote:
The 'explosion' sounds were sonic shockwaves. Basically, what happens when something moving at orbital velocity hits atmosphere.

Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Personally I think the main Asteroid flyby had captured and dragged the smaller Russian meteor along on it's path. The timing of both is just way too close.

Probably better information later on.

16 hours apart at 8km/s. Not even close - Except by cosmic distances. Completely different orbits, and really nice tinfoil-hat fuel.


The problem with one in a billion chances is that there is presciently one time in a billion opportunities does an incident occur.

That happened today, and most people don't understand statistics.

However, the chances aren't nearly one in a billion. The earth gets hit by smaller stuff all the time. A Hiroshima-sized explosion in the atmosphere caused by meteors happens about once a year. The propability is more likely about one in some low hundreds.

I got lost in thought... it was unfamiliar territory.

NightmareX
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#51 - 2013-02-16 19:52:44 UTC  |  Edited by: NightmareX
Sebastian N Cain wrote:
Kirjava wrote:
silens vesica wrote:
The 'explosion' sounds were sonic shockwaves. Basically, what happens when something moving at orbital velocity hits atmosphere.

Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Personally I think the main Asteroid flyby had captured and dragged the smaller Russian meteor along on it's path. The timing of both is just way too close.

Probably better information later on.

16 hours apart at 8km/s. Not even close - Except by cosmic distances. Completely different orbits, and really nice tinfoil-hat fuel.


The problem with one in a billion chances is that there is presciently one time in a billion opportunities does an incident occur.

That happened today, and most people don't understand statistics.

A Hiroshima-sized explosion in the atmosphere caused by meteors happens about once a year. The propability is more likely about one in some low hundreds.


Sure, but the explosion power from the meteor in Russia was 20 times bigger than the Hiroshima bomb.

That's not common at all.

Here is a list of my current EVE / PVP videos:

1: Asteroid Madness

2: Clash of the Empires

3: Suddenly Spaceships fighting in Tama

NightmareX
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#52 - 2013-02-17 02:42:22 UTC
Here are more video recordings with the sound of the meteor exploding: http://www.pcworld.com/article/2028292/russian-dashboard-cameras-youtube-beam-meteor-explosion-worldwide.html

It sounds like a massive war going on with those explosions Shocked

Here is a list of my current EVE / PVP videos:

1: Asteroid Madness

2: Clash of the Empires

3: Suddenly Spaceships fighting in Tama

Sab Sab Five
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#53 - 2013-02-17 02:56:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Sab Sab Five
Quote:
Really, what could be done right now about it?


picture a giant net, 100 km across and at each end in a circular pattern there are giant nuclear explosives. When the asteroid hits, the explosives will curl in and blammo!

also, if everyone on earth prayed at exactly the same moment, the exact same prayer... for the asteroid to miss earth... I am sure that s/he would step in and move the earth a few million kilos ahead in orbit.

That's probably what "Indian Summers" are, God just moving earth around in space to avoid giant asteroids.
Kirjava
Lothian Enterprises
#54 - 2013-02-17 03:24:55 UTC
I vote to arm the ISS with appropriate nuclear warheads and retrofitted engines of anything we can get to hand pronto. Pretty certain we can bodge together a retrofitted Soyuz attached to the ISS (including the ground launch segment) for delivery in under a year. Get 3 of those for redundancy with enough fire-power to try and deflect the roids at range. Won't work for all typed but then we can say we have something while we work on a dedicated system. Send the bill to the UN and in the mean time the UNSC bankroll it out their own pockets.

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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#55 - 2013-02-17 03:27:15 UTC
Kirjava wrote:
I vote to arm the ISS with appropriate nuclear warheads and retrofitted engines of anything we can get to hand pronto. Pretty certain we can bodge together a retrofitted Soyuz attached to the ISS (including the ground launch segment) for delivery in under a year. Get 3 of those for redundancy with enough fire-power to try and deflect the roids at range. Won't work for all typed but then we can say we have something while we work on a dedicated system. Send the bill to the UN and in the mean time the UNSC bankroll it out their own pockets.


Nuclear weapons don't do jack in space as there's nothing to push against... so instead of a cold piece of rock coming at you you have a hot piece of rock coming at you Straight

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Kirjava
Lothian Enterprises
#56 - 2013-02-17 03:30:45 UTC
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
Kirjava wrote:
I vote to arm the ISS with appropriate nuclear warheads and retrofitted engines of anything we can get to hand pronto. Pretty certain we can bodge together a retrofitted Soyuz attached to the ISS (including the ground launch segment) for delivery in under a year. Get 3 of those for redundancy with enough fire-power to try and deflect the roids at range. Won't work for all typed but then we can say we have something while we work on a dedicated system. Send the bill to the UN and in the mean time the UNSC bankroll it out their own pockets.


Nuclear weapons don't do jack in space as there's nothing to push against... so instead of a cold piece of rock coming at you you have a hot piece of rock coming at you Straight

Nah, it heats up one side of the roid more than the other, creates a minute amount of thrust but with enough forknowlege of its trajectory it can nudge it a fraction of a degree.

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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#57 - 2013-02-17 03:50:47 UTC
Kirjava wrote:
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:


Nuclear weapons don't do jack in space as there's nothing to push against... so instead of a cold piece of rock coming at you you have a hot piece of rock coming at you Straight

Nah, it heats up one side of the roid more than the other, creates a minute amount of thrust but with enough forknowlege of its trajectory it can nudge it a fraction of a degree.



Indeed the infamous never realized Orion Project used tiny nuclear bombs to propel a spacecraft to near light speed. This idea is also used in Neal Stephenson's "Anathem" novel.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_pulse_propulsion

http://www.flickr.com/photos/xeni/272457783/

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882

Mars Theran
Foreign Interloper
#58 - 2013-02-17 16:14:30 UTC
I find it interesting that they didn't decide to do anything about our 40 year visitor. Honestly, now seems as good a time as any to take care of it. What happens if it is even closer on the next pass, which it likely will be? Personally, I'd consider the possibility of how it might be prevented from hitting Earth in 40 years now, rather than later.

That does have the potential to go poorly of course, as you might cause it to hit Earth in 40 years where it might not otherwise have done so, or break it up and end up with many smaller problems, but if it has passed within the Satellite orbit this time, and with further influence from Earths gravitational field, then how likely is it to impact Earth later?

On the other hand, the curve as it passes Earth may send it by on the other side by quite a distance on its next pass.
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Frank Millar
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#59 - 2013-02-17 16:42:07 UTC
In times like these, I remember reading Lucifer's Hammer by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle and be awestruck.
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#60 - 2013-02-17 17:27:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Krixtal Icefluxor
Mars Theran wrote:
I find it interesting that they didn't decide to do anything about our 40 year visitor. Honestly, now seems as good a time as any to take care of it.



Our Congress here in the US has defunded NASA so badly that none of this will probably never happen.

A good chunk of a 'certain party' doesn't believe in science or education or libraries or public television anymore apparently, so expect this situation to get worse before it gets better.

Edit: if it makes one feel better, if we do get smacked by a planet cracker, it's all just a part of 'intelligent design' Ugh

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882