EVE General Discussion

This is simply fantastic. You did a lot of reading and research! I think I agree with you. Most people who are called trolls in this game seem to just really understand it and love it and want to have wacky adventures by making their own fun. That is the best part of EVE. Just do it! See what feathers fly up in the air and how you can catch them and how many times you die before you drop them all.

The people who do interesting things are why the game is even worth playing! You can have fun dying in EVE when people like this are the ones killing you. c:

Haha how did I miss this thread? It's solid gold! It's funny that James QUIT before he had a chance to do anything.

Vaeliel, I read all of your post, and I must say I agree with you whole heartedly.

As an ex Ultima player and more importantly (to me) an ex SWG player I understand exactly what you mean. I’ve seen first hand the death of great games because the loud mouthed whiners want the game to changed to their liking instead of adapting themselves to the dev’s vision of how the game should be.

I'm all for player/dev interaction, I'm a big supporter of the CSM, but I think that when it comes down to the core design philosophy of a game is, it’s a great mistake to try and change it.

EvE’s core design from day one has been “Space is dangerous”. That should stay that way, that feeling of “Here goes” every time we click undock should never leave us.

I assume you can prove that?

So the dude who wants the most AFK and bot-aspirant portion of the playerbase to actually participate in this game is actually forcing these people out of the game that, originally, they basically weren't playing to start with.

Someone grab me a spinning top, this is Gankception!

If you consider mashing a button every 15-30 minutes then tabbing back to netflix "playing EVE"....

Mine aligned (this includes moving at 75%), warp off when you see flashies jump in system, don't let anyone cuddle your barge. Presto, 99.999% ganks avoided.

I only wonder if "knights" ever think that they are actually defending one of the worst EVE mech survived to these days that is mining in its current form instead of allowing things to become outrageous enough so that CCP finally fix something they've promised to fix like 5 years ago.

James at least have an excuse of getting ISK from this mess through donations, shares and racket, but you?..

How can it be "his game" and "not james"? Don't you see the hypocrisy and stupidity of such a statement?

What james and the new order do is not griefing, calm down dear, and the goal isn't to force players out of the game, james and the new order play the game in a way that they enjoy. If you can't handle someone else existing in the sandbox that is not their problem

I have personally long feared this trending shift in the way Eve itself has changed over the years from a game of unforgiving harshness to one of laxed mechanics favoring the majority. Simply put, the Eve I knew has long since been dead. Its been replaced by Rmt's, bots, afk comotose mutiboxers whose collective vested interst in anything interactive seems almost non existent.

Eve has become LAZY. Its become those sitting at the top of their blue doughnut skimming off of such unfathomable advantage that it has turned to real world profit while we suffer as the sandbox we've come to know and love is slowly chipped away.
It has turned into players becoming as introverted as possible seeking only selfish wealth and complaining when their isk printer stops at the hands of a ganker.

These people have NO vested interest in the health of a game that has garnered a reputation of being one of if not the harshest yet most freedom giving games to date. The imagination was the limit with Eve. There were a plethora of avenues one player could
Take if only they strayed beyond the borders of controlled space into the vast unknown. Now we see this gameplay frowned upon. We see the lazy and stagnant complain about the sandbox forcing them to engage, we see the same tired power blocks holding the ear of devs and others in rigged "elections" in which these proverbial czars of our sandbox hold sway to shape and mold not for the benefit or enjoyment of more enriching gameplay, but to hold tight to their power and influence in a universe gone soft.

Alot has changed when I stared in 2004 but I can tell you most of it has not been for the better. I fear the game ive come to know and love is changing. Its changing into the very thing eve players mocked its turning into the very thing we turned our nose up to!

We were explorers, conqurers, our destiny was among the stars! Not in some purple gear encrusted cartoon that held no real challenge to us. I remember still this quote from an expansion trailer

"Your destiny is yours to define. Be bold pilot."

Bold. Its as if the echoes of what made this game great are begging to be heard from the shadows. But will we listen? Or in say the next decade will Eve become even more marginalzied and divided. Will It turn into "realms" like Ultima?

Ill already tell you. With the large coalitions not wishing true combat and only wealth it already has. When players seek the comfort of pixilated rocks and not each other it already has. When staged "fights" are used to save face and keep the ignorant and the meatsshields in check it already has.

So go on. Ignore the problems. And one day you'll be trading pets in station and lamenting at what was once Eve.

If only i could click like more than once.