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James 315 - An Apology and an Appeal
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Lord Ovuld Feish
Doomheim
#381 - 2013-02-16 17:19:23 UTC
Corey Fumimasa wrote:
Lord Ovuld Feish wrote:

I am fighting to change Eve, just like James is, but I am fighting so it's more accessible to more people, rather than douche central like it is now.


And how exactly do you think Eve could be modified to prevent one segment of the player base from "bullying" another while still allowing for open interaction between players? I've read a few of your posts and I don't see what it is that you want. At first I thought you were a lowsec dweller, the last few posts have finally convinced me otherwise.

What is it that you want to see in Eve?

Easy. I want Eve to lure in all kinds of players. Casuals, hardcores, PVE, PVP, Carebears, everyone. A truly diverse New Eden.

You want to be safe? And not forced to interact with others? Highsec.

Want to dip your toes into piracy and PVP? Lowsec

You want to have a player-created and controlled area where anything can happen? Nullsec, where the players are left to their machinations. But also don't go whining to CCP about people comfortable in highsec when the null dwellers have become as risk-averse as you perceive highseccers to be because you've blued everyone. That is what the New Order, and much of nullsec is guilty of, and they're just blaming highsec because we don't appreciate griefing and nonconsensual PVP.
Varius Xeral
Doomheim
#382 - 2013-02-16 17:22:25 UTC
Lord Ovuld Feish wrote:
You want to be safe? And not forced to interact with others? Highsec.


Nope, nowhere in Eve are you safe or immune from the actions of others.

Too bad, so sad. Never gonna happen.

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Galactic Rangers
#383 - 2013-02-16 17:28:54 UTC
Today, I read this thread and I''ve seen a whole new level of bolloxology.
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Galactic Rangers
#384 - 2013-02-16 17:37:43 UTC
Vaeliel wrote:
Part 6

He has a following, he has effectively polarized the playerbase



lmfao,,, i read it all,, it was funny as hell, but this line,,, lol,,, this line is the best.RollLolRollLol
Estella Osoka
Cranky Bitches Who PMS
#385 - 2013-02-16 17:38:30 UTC
Varius Xeral wrote:
Lord Ovuld Feish wrote:
You want to be safe? And not forced to interact with others? Highsec.


Nope, nowhere in Eve are you safe or immune from the actions of others.

Too bad, so sad. Never gonna happen.


It called being docked up or in station.
Bane Veradun
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#386 - 2013-02-16 17:41:47 UTC
James and his ilk are filled to overflowing with fear. It seeps from their very pores, like tears from their souls, it stains the interstellar void with its stench. He is not a man, but a puppet, and he turns others into mindless, formless pets, serving not a greater cause, but a shallow, pitiful ideal. His masters pull strings and he dances a jig for them, the jester-bard that sings and dances to amuse the simple minded onto the easy path.

Such is not a man, nor are those who blindly follow.

Hi.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#387 - 2013-02-16 18:27:19 UTC
Lord Ovuld Feish wrote:


You want to be safe? And not forced to interact with others? Highsec.

Want to dip your toes into piracy and PVP? Lowsec



Nope, this is not the spirit of Eve, highsec is not, never has been and never should be about absolute safety and exemption from PvP. Nor should it be an area where people can avoid interaction with others. This is a multi player game, not a single player game, if you want a space based single player game, there's always x3, freelancer, etc.

Piracy and PvP belong in highsec as much as they belong in lowsec and nullsec. PvP and the resultant destruction is what drives the economy of Eve. If you don't like what PvPers and pirates are doing, then do something about it in game.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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TheGunslinger42
All Web Investigations
#388 - 2013-02-16 18:30:39 UTC  |  Edited by: TheGunslinger42
Lord Ovuld Feish wrote:
Corey Fumimasa wrote:
Lord Ovuld Feish wrote:

I am fighting to change Eve, just like James is, but I am fighting so it's more accessible to more people, rather than douche central like it is now.


And how exactly do you think Eve could be modified to prevent one segment of the player base from "bullying" another while still allowing for open interaction between players? I've read a few of your posts and I don't see what it is that you want. At first I thought you were a lowsec dweller, the last few posts have finally convinced me otherwise.

What is it that you want to see in Eve?

Easy. I want Eve to lure in all kinds of players. Casuals, hardcores, PVE, PVP, Carebears, everyone. A truly diverse New Eden.

You want to be safe? And not forced to interact with others? Highsec.

Want to dip your toes into piracy and PVP? Lowsec

You want to have a player-created and controlled area where anything can happen? Nullsec, where the players are left to their machinations. But also don't go whining to CCP about people comfortable in highsec when the null dwellers have become as risk-averse as you perceive highseccers to be because you've blued everyone. That is what the New Order, and much of nullsec is guilty of, and they're just blaming highsec because we don't appreciate griefing and nonconsensual PVP.


This idea of being able to "not interact with others" is stupid and cannot be accomplished within EVE. It's one giant shard shared by everyone, one big economy shared by everyone, etc. You cannot opt out of interaction with people unless you completely redesign the game and take away some of the core defining aspects (that are clearly why it's survived and grown for ten straight years, while the countless wow-lite mmos have the lifespan of a mayfly)

It truly astonishes me that people miss the entire point of EVE online and continue to play it for so long, and that they think these kinds of suggestions would be improvements to the game
Bloodpetal
Tir Capital Management Group
#389 - 2013-02-16 18:43:43 UTC

There is such a thing as Public Speaking, and in this case Public Posting.

Make your point, i dont give a **** about James 420.

Where I am.
Ginger Barbarella
#390 - 2013-02-16 18:45:31 UTC
tl;dr

Oh, and James343425223432409 alt detected.

"Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac
Asuri Kinnes
Perkone
Caldari State
#391 - 2013-02-16 19:00:06 UTC
I hope to hell he doesn't get elected to the CSM.... but there are enough lemmings out there drinking the Cool-Aid that he probably will...

Bob is the god of Wormholes.

That's all you need to know.
Corey Fumimasa
CFM Salvage
#392 - 2013-02-16 19:18:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Corey Fumimasa
Lord Ovuld Feish wrote:

Easy. I want Eve to lure in all kinds of players. Casuals, hardcores, PVE, PVP, Carebears, everyone. A truly diverse New Eden.

.... But also don't go whining to CCP about people comfortable in highsec when the null dwellers have become as risk-averse as you perceive highseccers to be because you've blued everyone. That is what the New Order, and much of nullsec is guilty of, and they're just blaming highsec because we don't appreciate griefing and nonconsensual PVP.


Eve is truly diverse, it has all those kinds of players already.

The blue donut is a myth, it does not exist. Go to Dotlan and look over the kill stats. There are 2 huge powerblocks and a third that could tip the balance either way, and very many smaller sharks swimming and looking to get bigger. The leaders and members of these 2 huge power blocks do not all like one another, they compete and fight on a regular basis. It is a very precarious situation.

They are not blaming highsec, they are pursuing an in game motivation that meshes well with out of game ideals. You are not supposed to "appreciate" it. Your choice is to fight or loose resources. Eve is about overcoming and outsmarting other players, not about burning through fictional content to see who can do it the fastest. That is why Eve is a great game and lures all types of players, the endless challenge and interaction of competing with other players in a strange and mysterious world filled with hidden secrets that contain the seeds of success.

You still haven't stated clearly exactly what it is that you would like to see from CCP as far as future development. Don't leave it to the imaginations of those here, they will think the worst of you.
Lord Ovuld Feish
Doomheim
#393 - 2013-02-16 19:27:17 UTC
TheGunslinger42 wrote:
Lord Ovuld Feish wrote:
Corey Fumimasa wrote:
Lord Ovuld Feish wrote:

I am fighting to change Eve, just like James is, but I am fighting so it's more accessible to more people, rather than douche central like it is now.


And how exactly do you think Eve could be modified to prevent one segment of the player base from "bullying" another while still allowing for open interaction between players? I've read a few of your posts and I don't see what it is that you want. At first I thought you were a lowsec dweller, the last few posts have finally convinced me otherwise.

What is it that you want to see in Eve?

Easy. I want Eve to lure in all kinds of players. Casuals, hardcores, PVE, PVP, Carebears, everyone. A truly diverse New Eden.

You want to be safe? And not forced to interact with others? Highsec.

Want to dip your toes into piracy and PVP? Lowsec

You want to have a player-created and controlled area where anything can happen? Nullsec, where the players are left to their machinations. But also don't go whining to CCP about people comfortable in highsec when the null dwellers have become as risk-averse as you perceive highseccers to be because you've blued everyone. That is what the New Order, and much of nullsec is guilty of, and they're just blaming highsec because we don't appreciate griefing and nonconsensual PVP.


This idea of being able to "not interact with others" is stupid and cannot be accomplished within EVE. It's one giant shard shared by everyone, one big economy shared by everyone, etc. You cannot opt out of interaction with people unless you completely redesign the game and take away some of the core defining aspects (that are clearly why it's survived and grown for ten straight years, while the countless wow-lite mmos have the lifespan of a mayfly)

It truly astonishes me that people miss the entire point of EVE online and continue to play it for so long, and that they think these kinds of suggestions would be improvements to the game

*ahem*

SANDBOX.

Meaning multiple styles of play, including solo ones.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#394 - 2013-02-16 19:38:03 UTC
Lord Ovuld Feish wrote:

*ahem*

SANDBOX.

Meaning multiple styles of play, including solo ones.


Sandbox means that you can try and play solo, it doesn't mean we have to let you.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Corey Fumimasa
CFM Salvage
#395 - 2013-02-16 19:44:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Corey Fumimasa
Lord Ovuld Feish wrote:

*ahem*

SANDBOX.

Meaning multiple styles of play, including solo ones.


Eve is a great game for solo players, I spend most of my time out of a fleet and don't often care to take advantage of corporate assets. There's a ton of stuff to do on your own, and currently people can't steal anything from your hangers so it is all safe when you log off.

Its true that solo players have trouble setting up POS's, but there has been a lot of talk about making that easier to do. And there is always the ORCA option if you need a remote ship bay out in W-space or whatever.

The only changes that I would like to see are more ways in which to interact with one another. More career paths like the wandering ship mechanic proposed here:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=postmessage&t=196175&f=270&q=2623756

Or industrial espionage agent talked about here:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=195821&find=unread
Lord Ovuld Feish
Doomheim
#396 - 2013-02-16 19:49:11 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Lord Ovuld Feish wrote:

*ahem*

SANDBOX.

Meaning multiple styles of play, including solo ones.


Sandbox means that you can try and play solo, it doesn't mean we have to let you.

Indeed. And being forced to interact is something that needs to change.
Corey Fumimasa
CFM Salvage
#397 - 2013-02-16 20:00:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Corey Fumimasa
Lord Ovuld Feish wrote:

Indeed. And being forced to interact is something that needs to change.


No one in Eve is forced to interact. Players are forced to learn evasion tactics, and that option is currently very powerful. It is much easier for even a low skilled pilot to evade than it is for a high skilled pilot or pilots to catch him.
Josef Djugashvilis
#398 - 2013-02-16 20:03:39 UTC
Lord Ovuld Feish wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Lord Ovuld Feish wrote:

*ahem*

SANDBOX.

Meaning multiple styles of play, including solo ones.


Sandbox means that you can try and play solo, it doesn't mean we have to let you.

Indeed. And being forced to interact is something that needs to change.


^^^ yet more silly trolling.

Please stop.

This is not a signature.
Lord Ovuld Feish
Doomheim
#399 - 2013-02-16 20:06:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Lord Ovuld Feish
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:
Lord Ovuld Feish wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Lord Ovuld Feish wrote:

*ahem*

SANDBOX.

Meaning multiple styles of play, including solo ones.


Sandbox means that you can try and play solo, it doesn't mean we have to let you.

Indeed. And being forced to interact is something that needs to change.


^^^ yet more silly trolling.

Please stop.

I'm perfectly allowed to post my opinions. There are quite a lot of views on what Eve should be.
Keno Skir
#400 - 2013-02-16 20:06:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Keno Skir
Yet another tired thread about lol worthy new order.

If you wanna save people, show them how much fun the game can really be. That does not mean teach them to fly their ship in the direction of another ship before laughing. Kinda get what ur trying to say (James or who ever you're posting as today), but you're not doing it in a way that fits what you're trying to make out is going on.

Moving on...

EDIT : I fully support piracy in HiSec, even to the extent of bumbing miners if that's how you get your rocks off. I just don't like it when James calls what he does piracy, or PvP. James 315 likes the attention that really seems to be it.

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