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James 315 - An Apology and an Appeal
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Agent Trask
Doomheim
#361 - 2013-02-15 19:42:47 UTC
ITTigerClawIK wrote:
EVE's version of scientology or something?


Tl;DR


Yes. We are clearing those miners.

( gets out his e-meter suppositrodes )

Join the New Order, buy your permit today, and follow the code.

www.minerbumping.com
Agent Trask
Doomheim
#362 - 2013-02-15 19:44:22 UTC
Crumplecorn wrote:
TheGunslinger42 wrote:
So I'm revising my statements, EVE is 100% PVP. Unless you can present me with a single, truly PVE activity
I fully intended to respond to this with some obscure silly activity that is technically a PvE only activity, but I actually can't think of one.


Ship spinning at the dock.

See how big you can make the number at the bottom.

Join the New Order, buy your permit today, and follow the code.

www.minerbumping.com
Vin King
State War Academy
Caldari State
#363 - 2013-02-15 19:51:25 UTC
Agent Trask wrote:
Crumplecorn wrote:
TheGunslinger42 wrote:
So I'm revising my statements, EVE is 100% PVP. Unless you can present me with a single, truly PVE activity
I fully intended to respond to this with some obscure silly activity that is technically a PvE only activity, but I actually can't think of one.


Ship spinning at the dock.

See how big you can make the number at the bottom.


Only if you're spinning a noobship, though.

Proud member of the New Order of HighSec
Tesal
#364 - 2013-02-16 00:52:41 UTC
Vin King wrote:
Agent Trask wrote:
Crumplecorn wrote:
TheGunslinger42 wrote:
So I'm revising my statements, EVE is 100% PVP. Unless you can present me with a single, truly PVE activity
I fully intended to respond to this with some obscure silly activity that is technically a PvE only activity, but I actually can't think of one.


Ship spinning at the dock.

See how big you can make the number at the bottom.


Only if you're spinning a noobship, though.


Look at all the witty repartee.
Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#365 - 2013-02-16 02:15:04 UTC
Vin King wrote:
Only if you're spinning a noobship, though.

Actually, claiming your first nubship requires undocking at least once. This is unacceptable for a PvE-only character and so you must confine yourself to pod spinning.
Corey Fumimasa
CFM Salvage
#366 - 2013-02-16 02:28:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Corey Fumimasa
Benny Ohu wrote:
Vin King wrote:
Only if you're spinning a noobship, though.

Actually, claiming your first nubship requires undocking at least once. This is unacceptable for a PvE-only character and so you must confine yourself to pod spinning.

This is entirely inadequate, Eve pilots deserve better PvE encounters than just pod spinning. I would like to propose an auto pod spin feature! one that is clearly labeled and easily understood. Perhaps the space bar. With red octagons throughout the hanger labeled "STOP" in languages and fonts clearly understandable by all player skill levels.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#367 - 2013-02-16 02:37:31 UTC
Corey Fumimasa wrote:
Benny Ohu wrote:
Vin King wrote:
Only if you're spinning a noobship, though.

Actually, claiming your first nubship requires undocking at least once. This is unacceptable for a PvE-only character and so you must confine yourself to pod spinning.

This is entirely inadequate, Eve pilots deserve better PvE encounters than just pod spinning. I would like to propose an auto pod spin feature! one that is clearly labeled and easily understood. Perhaps the space bar. With red octagons throughout the hanger labeled "STOP" in languages and fonts clearly understandable by all player skill levels.

AFK spinning...?

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Vin King
State War Academy
Caldari State
#368 - 2013-02-16 02:48:58 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Corey Fumimasa wrote:
Benny Ohu wrote:
Vin King wrote:
Only if you're spinning a noobship, though.

Actually, claiming your first nubship requires undocking at least once. This is unacceptable for a PvE-only character and so you must confine yourself to pod spinning.

This is entirely inadequate, Eve pilots deserve better PvE encounters than just pod spinning. I would like to propose an auto pod spin feature! one that is clearly labeled and easily understood. Perhaps the space bar. With red octagons throughout the hanger labeled "STOP" in languages and fonts clearly understandable by all player skill levels.

AFK spinning...?


Let it hereby be known by all that AFK pod spinning has been determined to be the only PVE activity in the game.

Proud member of the New Order of HighSec
Tesal
#369 - 2013-02-16 02:50:22 UTC
Vin King wrote:

Let it hereby be known by all that AFK pod spinning has been determined to be the only PVE activity in the game.


Yay!!! I'm a pvper.
Corey Fumimasa
CFM Salvage
#370 - 2013-02-16 02:53:50 UTC
Tesal wrote:
Vin King wrote:

Let it hereby be known by all that AFK pod spinning has been determined to be the only PVE activity in the game.


Yay!!! I'm a pvper.

Welcome sister Tesal.
Torakenat
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#371 - 2013-02-16 03:59:28 UTC
Am I the only sensible ******* in the game?

To think James is on a crusade to change immergent gameplay is laughable at best.

He is using game play mechanics to usher in entertainment and profit. Bottom line. And tbh it's not half bad.

However, I refuse to stomach that he's is some pious deity set out to fix the game and/or community.

Sure there will be tears from a section of the community who in the past only had to worry about 1% chance of a suicide gank. However, Jame's actions does not affect the game as a whole nor have any significant ripple effect other than a dead horse topic on the forums.
Tesal
#372 - 2013-02-16 04:16:42 UTC
Torakenat wrote:
Am I the only sensible ******* in the game?

To think James is on a crusade to change immergent gameplay is laughable at best.

He is using game play mechanics to usher in entertainment and profit. Bottom line. And tbh it's not half bad.

However, I refuse to stomach that he's is some pious deity set out to fix the game and/or community.

Sure there will be tears from a section of the community who in the past only had to worry about 1% chance of a suicide gank. However, Jame's actions does not affect the game as a whole nor have any significant ripple effect other than a dead horse topic on the forums.


From what I can gather, he's roleplaying a cult leader.
Joran Dravius
Doomheim
#373 - 2013-02-16 04:32:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Joran Dravius
Sariah Kion wrote:
Joran Dravius wrote:

Carry my argument for me? You were just saying you wanted gankers removed because Eve is "dying" and I replied because I didn't notice it was posted by the idiot brigade. If I had it my way Eve would go back to how it was when I started. Concord would be killable and escapable. I'd remove jump drives to keep freighters full of goodies from teleporting past gate camps while I was at it.


The game grows because things like that were balanced out of the game. Carebears and mixed playstyles are allowing the game to grow but misguided players want to cut that away. For shame. Ganker mouth breather, for shame.


Dont let these null sec masters of deception and misinformation lead you around by the nose. Who will you gank when there is no one left to gank?

Puppet Masters at work. The dogs are hunting. Juice is a source of sugar. Do your homework.

Firstly, why do you assume I'm a ganker? I don't even like to be in high any more than I have to. They might as well change its name to WoW sec. Secondly, I assume i'd be killing the same sorts of people I was before the change in question happened. Finally, why do you think turning Eve into a WoW clone will be good for the game despite numerous examples of it having the exact opposite effect in other games?

Edit: And for the record I'm not being lead around by anyone. I am the "null sec masters of deception and misinformation" that you think are manipulating me. The vast majority of my time in Eve has been spent in low or null sec. You should try it some time. You'll make way more ISK and it's not nearly as scary as you think. Of course, you might actually have to interact with other people so maybe it's scary for you after all...
Aurora Nyx
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#374 - 2013-02-16 07:42:04 UTC
James 3:15

English Standard Version (ESV)


'This is not the wisdom that comes down from above, but is earthly, unspiritual, demonic.'





I liked New Order, they were a good group and the combination of new wave and electronic music always had my foot tapping. So if James wants to bring back New Order i say we let him, although without Peter Hook it's not going to be the same.
TheGunslinger42
All Web Investigations
#375 - 2013-02-16 11:41:21 UTC
Lord Ovuld Feish wrote:
The fact of the matter is that catering to carebears is more profitable. If CCP wants more money, they'll stop the carebear hate, or at least stop us from getting bullied.


Got any proof of that, mate? Look at all the other MMOs that cater to carebears and follow the wow-trend: They're wastelands after the initial bubble bursts. SWTOR had to go Free to Play after a ridiculously short time it was so abysmal, and that was one of the new MMOs that had the best chance at succeeding (franchise recognition, the team behind it, the massive resources available to them, etc)

Conversely, we have ten straight years of evidence suggesting that catering to the be-an-*******-in-a-sandbox crowd works just fine, and the occasional blip along the way have been a result of NOT focusing on things for that crowd (eg incarna)
TheGunslinger42
All Web Investigations
#376 - 2013-02-16 11:43:48 UTC
Benny Ohu wrote:
Vin King wrote:
Only if you're spinning a noobship, though.

Actually, claiming your first nubship requires undocking at least once. This is unacceptable for a PvE-only character and so you must confine yourself to pod spinning.


Pod spinning is actually far too risky, what if during your frantic click-drag-clicking you misclick on the undock button? You're now in risky pvp space!

Clearly we need some kind of safety mechanism to protect the Poor Newbs or EVE WILL DIE
Josef Djugashvilis
#377 - 2013-02-16 11:47:25 UTC
TheGunslinger42 wrote:
Lord Ovuld Feish wrote:
The fact of the matter is that catering to carebears is more profitable. If CCP wants more money, they'll stop the carebear hate, or at least stop us from getting bullied.


Got any proof of that, mate? Look at all the other MMOs that cater to carebears and follow the wow-trend: They're wastelands after the initial bubble bursts. SWTOR had to go Free to Play after a ridiculously short time it was so abysmal, and that was one of the new MMOs that had the best chance at succeeding (franchise recognition, the team behind it, the massive resources available to them, etc)

Conversely, we have ten straight years of evidence suggesting that catering to the be-an-*******-in-a-sandbox crowd works just fine, and the occasional blip along the way have been a result of NOT focusing on things for that crowd (eg incarna)


Lord whatever is trolling.

Please ignore him.

This is not a signature.
Lord Ovuld Feish
Doomheim
#378 - 2013-02-16 14:54:17 UTC
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:
TheGunslinger42 wrote:
Lord Ovuld Feish wrote:
The fact of the matter is that catering to carebears is more profitable. If CCP wants more money, they'll stop the carebear hate, or at least stop us from getting bullied.


Got any proof of that, mate? Look at all the other MMOs that cater to carebears and follow the wow-trend: They're wastelands after the initial bubble bursts. SWTOR had to go Free to Play after a ridiculously short time it was so abysmal, and that was one of the new MMOs that had the best chance at succeeding (franchise recognition, the team behind it, the massive resources available to them, etc)

Conversely, we have ten straight years of evidence suggesting that catering to the be-an-*******-in-a-sandbox crowd works just fine, and the occasional blip along the way have been a result of NOT focusing on things for that crowd (eg incarna)


Lord whatever is trolling.

Please ignore him.

I love how you have spent so much time online that you can prove 100% unequivocally what trolling is.

I am fighting to change Eve, just like James is, but I am fighting so it's more accessible to more people, rather than douche central like it is now.
Corey Fumimasa
CFM Salvage
#379 - 2013-02-16 15:11:24 UTC
Lord Ovuld Feish wrote:

I am fighting to change Eve, just like James is, but I am fighting so it's more accessible to more people, rather than douche central like it is now.


And how exactly do you think Eve could be modified to prevent one segment of the player base from "bullying" another while still allowing for open interaction between players? I've read a few of your posts and I don't see what it is that you want. At first I thought you were a lowsec dweller, the last few posts have finally convinced me otherwise.

What is it that you want to see in Eve?
JC Anderson
RED ROSE THORN
#380 - 2013-02-16 16:24:56 UTC
For some reason I'm in the mood for french onion dip.