Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Dear CCP

It's nice that you added a mining frigate.It's one of the best looking frigs in game to be honest. But it is lacking the stat's to do it's job.
The gas cloud harvesting bonus, the warp core strength , the large ore hold and the utility high make it great for going into 0.0 to harvest booster gas. The only problem is that it get's one hit k/o by those clouds.

The clouds them selves are from a bygone era in EVE. Boosters haven't been touched since they where released. a large % of eve players don't even know what boosters are and even less have used one. But for 0.0,low sec and wh players they are very useful.Since it seems unlikely that boosters are going to be touched in the next expansion or even the one after that.

I am requesting a small tweak to the ventures stat's Or even better removing the explosions from gas clouds.

Right now with the fit posted below. the venture can withstand about 3.4k ehp.

The way gas clouds work isn't exactly clear but it seems they send out and AOE attack at the end of an harvesters cycle. The wave seems to vary from 1200 em/therm to 2400 em/therm. If your unlucky and both harvesters cause damage then the venture goes pop. Even stopping a harvester mid cycle will cause a cloud to "react".



High power
1x Core Probe Launcher II
2x Gas Cloud Harvester II
Medium power
1x Medium C5-L Emergency Shield Overload I
1x Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
1x Medium Shield Extender II
Low power
1x Damage Control II
Rig Slot
1x Small Processor Overclocking Unit I
1x Small Core Defense Field Extender I
1x Small Gravity Capacitor Upgrade I

I have found no better fit that is this efficient for the task at hand. No amount of EFT can give me the combo of rep/buffer

I would really like to hear from a member of the dev/community about this small tweak or removing the gas cloud reactions. It seems like an low hanging fruit for a feature that has long since been abandoned.

Thanks from a drug manufacture.


P.S for dev/community
I'll be at fan fest so if this get's some love i'll buy the first round of beer.

The venture has 5000 gas capacity, it costs 400k, has +2 WCS and is extremely cheap to fit too. Its also quick and doesnt set alarm bells ringing with locals.

Keep playing with EFT, its doable on the cheap with some bargain rigs.

Stagger your harvesters too. It is possible though to make a fit that can tank them.

maybe all the venture need is a minimal immunity to the gas cloud and deep core mining explosions added.

I can't believe they forgot about that.

all the good a mining and gas harvesting ship is if it cant survive the MINING and GAS HARVESTING part of its job!!

Try going for a bit more resists than just more shield. While I agree a bit more tank or some native resists to the clouds or something would be nice. It is just about doable.

Maybe just chance reduction on the Cloud Reacting? Smiliar to the Skiff Exhumer Bonus:


So the Venture might get an Ore Mining Frigate Bonus: something like
15% reduced chance of Gas Cloud Damage per level

Then it will enable you to maintain the EHP that you currently have, you stated that you can survive 1 Damage but not 2, so if the Damage comes less often, you are more likely to survive.

Oh if CCP read this thread.


Let the rorq carry ventures please. <3

I'm pretty sure somewhere in another discussion CCP also stated this was a starter ship. Ya know, the types given during tutorial missions and such. And it wasn't designed really to excel all the way to 0.0. As such it is perfectly acceptable for lowsec. I wouldn't expect it to get buffed more than it is.

i realize this is a starter ship. But that doesn't mean it needs to suck. There is no other dedicated gas harvester ship in the game that can do what this starter frig does.


This is the ventures discription:

Recognizing the dire need for a ship capable of fast operation in unsafe territories, ORE created the Venture. It was conceived as a vessel primed and ready for any capsuleer, no matter how new to the dangers of New Eden they might be, who wishes to engage in the respectable trade of mining.

The Venture has amazing abilities to quickly drill through to the ores and gases it's after, harvesting them at the speed necessary for mining in hostile space, and getting out relatively unscathed.

The small hp buff would make that a reality for Gas mining.

And gas mining is a heck of a lot more valuable than regular mining. a full hold of lime malachite has a value of almost 60m. This would be a great risk/reward for new players to go after.It's quite a bit of fun getting past gate camps,scanning down the sites and trying to get back with your ship intact.

This. Definitely an oversight. It's unlikely CCP give it a specific role niche that no other ship has, but then intentionally disable that role.

...or alter gas explosions to work more like missiles so that speed and small signatures mitigate the damage?