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Petition - Full ban of multi boxing programs which duplicate clicks.

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Mildew Wolf
#421 - 2013-03-03 02:51:24 UTC
isboxed bomber wings etc are kinda lame imo
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#422 - 2013-03-03 03:00:49 UTC
Mildew Wolf wrote:
isboxed bomber wings etc are kinda lame imo

Do you know of anybody that does that? Because I don't.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#423 - 2013-03-03 03:03:28 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Mildew Wolf wrote:
isboxed bomber wings etc are kinda lame imo

Do you know of anybody that does that? Because I don't.

In bomberwaffe we have someone who does this.

He messes up the fleet by logging in and joiining with multiple characters. You can see squads with 15 people ...

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Mildew Wolf
#424 - 2013-03-03 03:23:51 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Mildew Wolf wrote:
isboxed bomber wings etc are kinda lame imo

Do you know of anybody that does that? Because I don't.

In bomberwaffe we have someone who does this.

He messes up the fleet by logging in and joiining with multiple characters. You can see squads with 15 people ...


Yes I know of someone personally that does it and have heard of others.

Some of what I've heard involved goons. I'm pretty sure at least a couple of you could figure out how to make it work )))
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#425 - 2013-03-03 05:13:57 UTC
Mildew Wolf wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Mildew Wolf wrote:
isboxed bomber wings etc are kinda lame imo

Do you know of anybody that does that? Because I don't.

In bomberwaffe we have someone who does this.

He messes up the fleet by logging in and joiining with multiple characters. You can see squads with 15 people ...


Yes I know of someone personally that does it and have heard of others.

Some of what I've heard involved goons. I'm pretty sure at least a couple of you could figure out how to make it work )))

Some of us have enough terrible at eve to "fill" several slots in a bomber fleet.

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Boobiq
Imperial Express
#426 - 2013-03-04 09:01:13 UTC
Natsett Amuinn wrote:
I agree.


Software that allows you to connect multiple clients to a single keystroke shouldn't be allowed.

If CCP is going to allow stuff like that, then they should build it into EVE.

This includes complex macros from mice and keyboards.
I could have swore that it was posible for developers to block LUA commands given from things like G15's or something? I know I've played other online games and the game would get all wonky whenever I used a macro key.


However, it would be foolish to do this now. I'm pretty sure that after 10 years of allowing people to multibox in a game that actually promotes the purchase of more accounts for alts, the amount of revenue they would lose if they enforced a rule like this could quite possible end them.

Does anyone think that only a really small portion of the playerbase uses this kind of stuff?
After many, many years of watching people in mining belts I feel confident saying that software that allows you to connect multiple clients is used on a rather regular basis.


They should make it a native ability of the client.


I do believe that small amount of players use multiboxing so I do not think it will affect player base in whole. A year ago there were bots/boxers in 4-5 piloted groups. Now 80+ in one system. I think that if they will get banned it would allow real players to earn more profit from all the activities done by multiboxers/bots currently.
KuroVolt
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#427 - 2013-03-04 13:23:43 UTC  |  Edited by: KuroVolt
I support this motion.


Anything that duplicated or REPLICATES clicks is botting really.

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Alec Enderas
Space Wolves ind.
Solyaris Chtonium
#428 - 2013-03-04 13:28:08 UTC
/signed

I am not old, just bitter.
AndromacheDarkstar
Integrated Insterstellar Holdings
#429 - 2013-03-04 13:34:15 UTC
Do Not Sign This

It would take a **** tonne of accounts out of the game which would kill the plex market and cause absolute chaos. It really dosent harm that many people at all as it really isnt that widespread. Live and let live people.
Dark Reignz
Four-Q
#430 - 2013-03-04 13:43:19 UTC
AndromacheDarkstar wrote:


It would take a **** tonne of accounts out of the game


AndromacheDarkstar wrote:


it really isnt that widespread.


You seems to contradict yourself there bro. Even if they did ban multiboxing, no one is stopping you from paying for the accounts. You'll have to get used to controlling each one manually.

"Adapt or Die" bro.

/Signed Petition

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Klymer
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#431 - 2013-03-04 15:13:51 UTC
KuroVolt wrote:
I support this motion.


Anything that duplicated or REPLICATES clicks is botting really.


So if I tape a couple of mice together and put wooden dowels on them so that when I move them or push the buttons they both do the same thing then I'm a bot?
Barakkus
#432 - 2013-03-04 16:38:33 UTC
Whitehound wrote:
Multiboxer hardly contribute to the number of ship explosions, they are emotionless machines and dominate the economy over real, living, feeling players.

There is your argument.


Not true! I have lost quite a few ships multiboxing while roaming! My alt is actually upset with me about getting podded repeatedly :(

http://youtu.be/yytbDZrw1jc
Ginger Barbarella
#433 - 2013-03-04 16:40:28 UTC
32 pages and counting for an inane post by someone that really doesn't know what he's talking about.

But then again, this *IS* GD.

"Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac
Baki Yuku
Doomheim
#434 - 2013-03-04 19:23:03 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Suvetar
Kal Mindar wrote:
With the recent news of the Eve-uni multi box botting scandal, I think it is time to ban multi box programs.
Any program that allows 1 player to operate 30 characters, even just for movement, should not be allowed. Why are they allowed to hit 1 button and insta warp 30 characters to safety instead of dealing with the consequences of not being able to manually move them all in time to prevent a gank. A click is a click and any program that duplicates one is not following the spirit of action vs. consequence that this amazing game is based upon.


I, Kal Mindar, deem that multi boxing programs are a EULA breaking form of automation that undermines the integrity of this game.


Edit:
This is pretty sad. I have never seen such a lack of reading comprehension in my life. I started this thread to petition against ONE thing only and that was Duplication of clicks via a 3rd party program.
From there, you guys have talked about fleet warp being duplication? Really? An in game feature is 3rd party software?
Ban multi boxing? Are you kidding? No one said anything about one person being able to control multiple accounts.
OP is just mad/poor/idiot/etc..... I use 4 accounts to play this game, I multi box, I have plenty of $ thank you for isboxer or more accounts.

Give your collective heads a shake. This thread is about a program doing the work that a person should have to do in order to keep the playing field even. Eve central fine. Spreadsheets fine. Pyfa fine. None of these perform in game clicks for players. You have to understand clicks are what sets the tempo for how long it takes to do things. Automate any part of it and it undermines the level playing field that must be there. Anyway, some really great posts for both sides of the discussion. Just too bad so many people seem to have missed some simple points to keep this thread on topic. Hopefully CCP got some good player input and can use it to continue making this game freaking amazing.

I love you all.

Fly safe o7.

Kal



Get ****** TRIBE pet! I can login more carriers then your entire pet level alliance how the **** do you think I'd be able to use them in combat without ISBOXER right I could not so what would happen? I'd unsubscribe a fuckton of accounts and not just not but every multiboxer in this game. Sure CCP likes to lose revenue for no real reason...

There is a reason every game allows multiboxing tools because there is a huge difference between automated **** and repeating. One is done without any input what so ever the other requires input so think again pubbie.

Edit - Masking or evading the profanity filter is against the rules. Please don't do it. - ISD Suvetar
xP0nYx
4S Corporation
The Initiative.
#435 - 2013-03-04 20:15:49 UTC
i just feel sad for all u ISBOXER hater....
if ur to dumb to use it, go learn it. there are videos out there.
and the fact that CCP allows it, hell they even support them, should give u to think.
its nothing automated and if u have never used it just STFU, u dont know what ur talking about.
i can do the same here with my 3 PCs there are programms that can let u use ur mouse over more than one PC....
so sad.....
Murk Paradox
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#436 - 2013-03-04 21:09:20 UTC
xP0nYx wrote:
i just feel sad for all u ISBOXER hater....
if ur to dumb to use it, go learn it. there are videos out there.
and the fact that CCP allows it, hell they even support them, should give u to think.
its nothing automated and if u have never used it just STFU, u dont know what ur talking about.
i can do the same here with my 3 PCs there are programms that can let u use ur mouse over more than one PC....
so sad.....



Not to pick a fight, but the grammar and basic level of effort put into this post is why programs that encourage laziness are bad.

This post has been signed by Murk Paradox and no other accounts, alternate or otherwise. Any other post claiming to be this holder's is subject to being banned at the discretion of the GM Team as it would violate the TOS in regards to impersonation. Signed, Murk Paradox. In triplicate.
xP0nYx
4S Corporation
The Initiative.
#437 - 2013-03-04 21:29:18 UTC
we live in the age of internet, grammar isnt of any importance as long as u know the meaning....
btw lazy is cool....
Dave stark
#438 - 2013-03-04 21:33:36 UTC
xP0nYx wrote:
we live in the age of internet, grammar isnt of any importance as long as u know the meaning....
btw lazy is cool....


without grammar, how are people meant to understand the meaning?
thrashing your head on the keyboard is to communication what pissing in to the wind is to sensible choices.
Ginger Barbarella
#439 - 2013-03-05 16:03:37 UTC
xP0nYx wrote:
we live in the age of internet, grammar isnt of any importance as long as u know the meaning....
btw lazy is cool....


Keep thinking that, Skippy. Your long-awaiting promotion to fry cook is surely just around the corner.

"Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac
Athena Maldoran
Doomheim
#440 - 2013-03-05 16:14:01 UTC
./signed.

I, Athena Maldoran, also deem that multi boxing programs are a EULA breaking form of automation that undermines the integrity of this game.

If you can't support your self without, maybe your doing it wrong esse!