Warfare & Tactics

Well, guess I got some planning to do, lol.

A station can be captured...and it takes several days of timers and prep.

A POS can be destroyed, but again takes several timers.

Who cares learn to play the game?

(No Seraph, bad, don't be mean to them. You'll only entrench them in their one track mentality and grotesque tactical simplicity.)

Ahem. What I meant to say is that the issue here is local. It's crazy to think that some chatroom should act as a tactical and strategic factor when it comes to this game. If you are cloaked, you should be removed from local, OR local should work the same as in w-space. This way people can be afk and cloaked but not inspire any fear in the people in system.

Seriously people, lay down traps and bait out your targets. I can't believe the show of incompetence.

Exactly. Also they deserved it for god awful bomber fits.

Getting rid of local would be a big improvement.

Excellent point, and that ‘improvement’ can be realised without CCP having to do anything to change nullsec dynamics.

There are already approximately 2,500 solar systems where this is currently the setup. They start at J100001 and work their way up to J235953, and collectively they represent a wonderful and challenging niche of the eve cosmos. In J123456 you can have a thousand afk cloaky folk and never be any the wiser, unless they return to their keyboard, become active, and decloak to do something.

I, too, would dearly love CCP to change the game so that my cowardice isn't so easily exploited.

To reiterate:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zva7I60LpeE

Well said, from now on every time I see one of these people asking for local to be removed I am going to post, go to WH space, 2,500 systems, no local and you cannot be hot dropped either!

Removing local from 0.0 is a stupid idea. And leave cloakies as is, I get my kicks out of hunting them and working out when they are able to operate and when they are AFK!

From what i can tell, even if i got killed by some hotdropper after thinking that after days afk in our system, he is probably afk all the time, i understand with the current state of the game why nothing is made about it.

One thing that is frustrating is the fact that a guy, with a lot of time, and multiple account can spread his toons in entire region with a minimal risk.

This is mostly why you got complain, and why people come here to cry about this broken mechanism. It feel unfair for single account or dual account player that some guys users dozens (and even more) accounts to camps their system. I totally understand that.

But how to fix it ?

CCP will not say, but theses guys with many account are big clients and you know, you always have respect your big client.

Anyway, the problem is the static gameplay you got in nulsec. When i started to play, people told me that it was the farwest in nulsec. It is not, at all.

Yes, you can do almost what you want but you have big corporation and alliance that own entire region with minimal risk and maximum profits. After that they only need to have patrol to police the area against intruder and terrorist. This is how i feel about it. It feel more like a country government with his police than farwest.

Theses are really more deep change to nulsec warfare but i think it will make the warfare more dynamic and less static :

- ADD NPC null sec where corporation and alliance can obtain for a period of time (days, hours ?) protection from the NPC corp (like concord), of course, these area will be less resources rich than pure nulsec, but it will give a gameplay where players will be able to mine, produce after wining the zone. It would have also, to obtain such zone, i see 2 ways


1. Fight and win a PVP fight that happen periodically. The NPC corp will protect the winner of the fight for 4 hour or something like that.
2. Be the first to give to the NPC corp a specified amount of ore, ice, or any other production related material. Theses material can change overtime (to make sure nobody stack them and can be region specific. Also, the cost for a corporation/alliance to maintain access to the region will growth over time. The cost could also be based on corporation/alliance size)

Protection from the NPC will still allow of course kamikaze attack and stuff like that. But at least, it will give a possibility for some corp to do some nulsec without having to camp other system and prepare for month/years their attack or having to ally.

As for cloaker, if CCP nerf them by giving them fuel cost, why not, instead of removing local, give them a real utility. I mean something else than ganking nullbear.

They say they do that because capturing a zone is way too difficult. Let them install debuffer structure, let them install bomb on station and other players structure.(it could slow down production, prevent docking for x min, block repair, etc..) let them actually do real harassment to the zone but make them more easier to catch if they don't play a real active gamestyle (i.e. moving from location to location to ensure not being spotted).

That would add active gameplay and remove the sooooo much usefull strat of being AFK in a system for days without making them totally useless. Instead, they will be even more powerful and it will give security fleet even more challenge.

but for now, i would say : Make sure nobody abuse of this tactic

If you don't want local go to WH space, I am quite happy having local and AFK campers thankyou very much.