EVE General Discussion

Thanks, you managed to quote my post but clearly haven't read either it or the rest of the thread. Your response is fantastically unintelligent as a result. I still have yet to hear a legitimate argument against this idea. Anyone else who wants to rant on about "laziness” can do it elsewhere - it's not relevant to the discussion and it's not a basis for the proposed change. Take your time, read through the advantages I've listed, engage brain and then comment.

And as for Eve not being a game for me, B**ch please! I was here before you and I'll be here after you've gone.

Really? What's your evidence for that? How much auto-unanchoring have you observed?

War decs to remove active towers create conflicts, like I said. There's no conflict involved in sitting shooting all day at a tower that is owned by someone whose account expired 2 years ago!

Conversely, have you ever seen what happens when an alliance forgets to pay its sov bill and drops all it's space? Big scramble to take advantage, TCUs getting launched, big fights occuring.

48 hours is a bit too short IMO.

Make it 21 - 30 days and you've got a deal.

I have done it the way you described when i had to plaace my towers.So that cleared up i fully agree with them popping after a month.It's just stupid that you can leave stufff hanging in space for years.They did the same for cans and such years ago so why are towers any different?

1. Just nothing complicated about the timer. POS runs out of fuel, self-destruct countdown starts. How could anything be easier?

2. I agree, that's why I said it should be a self destruct, to protect the tower market.

I wouldn't care if it was a two day timer, two week timer, whatever.

Not just run out of fuel. Manually taken offline should also start the unanchor timer.

The moon I left occupied, the tower still had fuel. I'd just taken it offline a week or so before I quit the game.

In the CSM minutes, they said they'd worked on a prototype, but that they discovered it would take every developer they have, a full 6 month release cycle, and NOTHING else would get done, and they thought that would crush them under a wave of unahppy players complaining that there was not enough new content in the release.

So, the POS total redesign is on hold until.... Probably until sometime after we can actually leave our captains quarters and walk in station.

ahhh right, tbh i would still be insanely happy with a full release with just the POS revamp, cause it would effect most folks and the system is in dire need of an overhaul anyway,

i think it would be an idea to ask for a vote on it tbh

I think that a logical progression would be as follows, assuming that to maintain it's "anchor" a POS must have at least some reserve power left that will eventually deplete.

1: Fuel runs out or is manually taken offline: Shields go down immediately. Reinforcement still depends of having the correct materials present.

2: 72 hours after going offline the tower unanchors and begins to "drift" towards it's moon. In an unanchored state (completely out of even reserve power) the POS control tower can be hacked and control (ownership) established by the hackers corp. This means full ownership, passwords reset, all assets are now his. This "hackable" state lasts from the time the POS unanchors until the POS is either brought back on line or is destroyed (either by force or by impacting it's moon).

3: 24 hours after the tower unanchors it impacts the moons surface and is destroyed alone with all assets contained therein.


So in essence, if you run out of fuel or abandon your POS (and it goes offline) you have 72 hours (without shields up) to realize your mistake or change your mind before it unanchors and can be hacked. If the POS remains unhacked or is not destroyed for 24 hours it is assumed to drift from orbit and is destroyed automatcially, probably at down time.

This provides time to correct accidents with refueling schedules.
This gives a window of opportunity to more easily destroy an unpowered POS, or hack it to claim it as your own.
If no one notices or cares about this POS, then it is eventually destroyed (in a logical manner) and removed from the system.

Just get some domis, slap on a few drone damage amplifiers, plus the sentry drone damage rigs, and shoot the abandoned towers with sentry drones. Can even do this AFK. And won't even cost any isk in ammo.