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For a long time fleet miners have needed a survey scanner that matches the mining range of their barges.

As it is essential to have the scanner on the barge itself in order to mine efficiently by locking/unlocking on asteroids directly from the scanner, having the scan bonus on the capital ship is ineffectual.

This is especially so now that Hulks are purposed for fleet mining they're likely to always have an increased laser range. Their laser range is 26km and the best scanner is 22 leaving a sizable hole

Proposal:
A Role Bonus for Hulks to boost survey scanner range
-or-
Extend capital ship bonus to fleet members, perhaps as a leadership skill.
-or-
Increase range of Survey Scanner II
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Fleet shared Survey Scanner Results (added per Buzzy Warstl)

Thank for for your reply. But please do read the thread before making a knee-jerk form reply.

"As it is essential to have the scanner on the barge itself in order to mine efficiently by locking/unlocking on asteroids directly from the scanner, having the scan bonus on the capital ship is ineffectual."

I did read it. As Shah pointed out, it is not essential for a barge to have an ore scanner to mine effectively. The tools are already available in game to allow you to do this efficiently. Hint: It requires teamwork.

But you aren't a miner, so you don't get it, and are just trolling.

Miners lock and unlock asteroids directly from the scan result window (not the overview) - where the status of each asteroid can bee seen.

The capital ship having a scan result window does not allow the miner to lock on asteroids from it. So barges must have the scanner.

Hulks, being fleet purposed barges, should have a scanning ability at least equal to their laser range.

Last I checked, a Hulk is not a capital ship. I read your post & understood it perfectly, I just disagreed. Labelling anyone that disagrees with you as a troll doesn't help your argument.



If we'd never mined at any stage, we wouldn't be giving you solid advice on this. Just because we choose to no longer mine does not mean that we know nothing about it. We get where you're coming from, but the tools you're asking for already exist in the form of Orca & Rorqual bonuses, as they are mining support ships.

And if you have three toons, and only one monitor WTF then.

The non-miners *really* don't get it, do they?

The point of the scanner isn't to know which rocks are best, it's to know when to turn off *your* mining lasers so that you don't waste 50% or more of a cycle on a dead asteroid. This is not information that can be transmitted from the support ship as they don't have all the data necessary to make that call.

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What would be really useful is to have ships in a fleet share scanner results (for any type of scanner) automatically.

We have that whole subspace network thing going, it would make sense for such primitive data to be shared out along with general telemetry and such.

The barge pilot needs to be able to see how ore levels have changed in order to unlock asteroids before they deplete FROM THE SCANNER WINDOW so he unlocks the correct laser. Otherwise he wastes cycle time on empty asteroids. With many asteroids having only 1-2 cycles in them this is a constant process and not doing it can cut your m3/hr by upwards of 40%.

The only way to mine efficiently is for the scanner to be on the barge.

The OP is correct.

Scanners must be on the Hulks. Hulk pilots need to constantly monitor asteroid levels in order to efficiently manage their laser cycles.

Only trolls and non-miners give the 'dur, an orca kan du eet, dur!' answer.

Good idea, long overdue.

The Hulk Role Bonus is the most selective of the proposals with the least auxiliary impact.

+1

The Role Bonus still takes up the tank slot you covet...