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MoreThanFaster
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2013-02-09 16:30:35 UTC
Hi,
i have a very big problem here, in 2012 I've buy a lot of Eve Online Retail box with a GTC inside i use to pay my 5 accounts.
Last week i try to use one, not working and other 3-4 same.

CCP tell me that Atari is now down, bankrupt and my 62 code here are disabled.
CCP tell me that it can do nothing, so i've loose a very big quantity of money.

I think to have buy not an Atari GTC but a Eve Online GTC and in the retail box there is Atari name bur CCP name also.

Someone have a similar esperience in order to help me?

Thanks.
Whitehound
#2 - 2013-02-09 16:34:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Whitehound
If you have paid for these GTC with money then I am sure CCP will make it worthwhile.

I doubt CCP will punish you for another company going bankrupt. Seems unfair to me and since you have already paid for it.

Just my two cents.

Loss is meaningful. Therefore is the loss of meaning likewise meaningful. It is the source of all trolling.
MoreThanFaster
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2013-02-09 16:41:57 UTC  |  Edited by: MoreThanFaster
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Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
#4 - 2013-02-09 16:44:24 UTC
FYI you might want to remove GM response, since its not allowed, and will get the thread locked.

CCP's Motto: If it isn't broken, break it. If it is broken, ignore it. Improving NPE / Dynamic New Eden
Whitehound
#5 - 2013-02-09 16:46:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Whitehound
Well, seems like CCP did make it worthwhile, but only as far as it is reasonable for them to do, which is ok, don't you think?

They also told you what you should do. Did you then contact your reseller?

By the way, posting of petitions is not allowed... (but thanks for sharing Lol)

And... I know of at least one game shop in my town who does ridiculous stuff like selling used games without codes or with old, used or invalid codes. You cannot blame the game maker for everything, at least not for such practise.

Loss is meaningful. Therefore is the loss of meaning likewise meaningful. It is the source of all trolling.
MoreThanFaster
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2013-02-09 16:49:47 UTC
I buy GTC before Atari bankrupt, this is the problem. I send an e-mail to Atari, i will try to contact my seller too but i don't think he return me money...
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#7 - 2013-02-09 16:54:51 UTC
The only good news here is that Atari finally went bankrupt. With their horrible management they ruined some of the games I loved the most, one of them (a MMO) almost died down and only recently - under new management - has managed to turn its descent.

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Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2013-02-09 16:58:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Mr Kidd
"On January 21, 2013 Atari SA's U.S. subsidiaries Atari Inc.; Atari Interactive, Inc; California U.S. Holdings, Inc.; and Humongous, Inc. voluntarily filed for chapter 11 bankruptcy protection"

I doubt Atari is going to honor their debts since they filed for protection against you crazy creditors! Soz!

This is what is known as an economy. Follow me here.......Atari gave money to CCP to sell GTC. You gave Atari money to buy those GTC. And now, you're left holding the bag. Everyone that matters got their money except you because you're a consumer and don't really matter. See how an economy works?

Don't ban me, bro!
MoreThanFaster
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2013-02-09 17:01:54 UTC
Damn, i loose a lot of money here, if tomorrow CCP sell GTC with another company and it bankrupt, all time the players have to loose money? I've buy an Eve Online GTC, not other...
Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
#10 - 2013-02-09 17:04:32 UTC
This is when buying in bulk isn't a good idea.

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MoreThanFaster
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2013-02-09 17:19:43 UTC
Brooks Puuntai wrote:
This is when buying in bulk isn't a good idea.


Bulk, Retail Box, it's like to buy a game with its box. At the end i have buy code, part of money is going to CCP and a little part to Atari.
CCP have take a part of my money, i have not buy in Cina or Ebay.
It's ok if CCP bankrupt but here Atari is a simple reseller. If you buy something in a store and the store close, you don't loose warranty.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#12 - 2013-02-09 17:27:36 UTC  |  Edited by: baltec1
MoreThanFaster wrote:
Brooks Puuntai wrote:
This is when buying in bulk isn't a good idea.


Bulk, Retail Box, it's like to buy a game with its box. At the end i have buy code, part of money is going to CCP and a little part to Atari.
CCP have take a part of my money, i have not buy in Cina or Ebay.
It's ok if CCP bankrupt but here Atari is a simple reseller. If you buy something in a store and the store close, you don't loose warranty.


Atari bought those things from CCP so all your money would be going to Atari. It sucks balls but theres not much you can do hereStraight
Melina Lin
Universal Frog
#13 - 2013-02-09 17:29:32 UTC
Brooks Puuntai wrote:
This is when buying in bulk isn't a good idea.


Buying bulk was smart, those things were quite cheap. Not redeeming the things into PLEX, on the other hand, not so much. Yay for procrastinating, right?
Whitehound
#14 - 2013-02-09 17:29:42 UTC
MoreThanFaster wrote:
Brooks Puuntai wrote:
This is when buying in bulk isn't a good idea.


Bulk, Retail Box, it's like to buy a game with its box. At the end i have buy code, part of money is going to CCP and a little part to Atari.
CCP have take a part of my money, i have not buy in Cina or Ebay.
It's ok if CCP bankrupt but here Atari is a simple reseller. If you buy something in a store and the store close, you don't loose warranty.

I think we all understand (at least I do) that this is not your fault and you are being a victim here, nor is this good for anyone's business when customers get burned like you were.

Loss is meaningful. Therefore is the loss of meaning likewise meaningful. It is the source of all trolling.
Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
#15 - 2013-02-09 17:31:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Brooks Puuntai
MoreThanFaster wrote:
Brooks Puuntai wrote:
This is when buying in bulk isn't a good idea.


Bulk, Retail Box, it's like to buy a game with its box. At the end i have buy code, part of money is going to CCP and a little part to Atari.
CCP have take a part of my money, i have not buy in Cina or Ebay.
It's ok if CCP bankrupt but here Atari is a simple reseller. If you buy something in a store and the store close, you don't loose warranty.


Doubt CCP made any money off of your purchases, since Atari was the one who fronted the money(or most of it) to produce the physical selling unit. Its pretty much advertisement for CCP for people browsing game stores to get people into the game.

Melina Lin wrote:
Brooks Puuntai wrote:
This is when buying in bulk isn't a good idea.


Buying bulk was smart, those things were quite cheap. Not redeeming the things into PLEX, on the other hand, not so much. Yay for procrastinating, right?


I'm guessing these where bought recently. Probably a store discounted them even more to try and push them out, since trying to get credit from a company that's going bankrupt usually doesn't work out.

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Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#16 - 2013-02-09 17:36:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Vaerah Vahrokha
Mr Kidd wrote:

This is what is known as an economy. Follow me here.......Atari gave money to CCP to sell GTC. You gave Atari money to buy those GTC. And now, you're left holding the bag. Everyone that matters got their money except you because you're a consumer and don't really matter. See how an economy works?


Of course, now the OP should go to every major MMORPG website and magazine and make well known that CCP accepted deals with a very soon bankrupt company, without any single bit of due diligence.

*I*, a stupid end user, knew that Atary was going bankrupt since 2006. Yet CCP made a deal with them.

Edit: no sure if it's widely known but it's several years Atari was so low on money that they could not distribute more than a portion of the boxes they were meant to, much less in all the countries they were meant to. In my country they could distribute 2 (two) boxes of a MMO in a 1.5M people city vs the hundreds the other distributors do for the other brands.

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Orlacc
#17 - 2013-02-09 18:19:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Orlacc
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
Mr Kidd wrote:

This is what is known as an economy. Follow me here.......Atari gave money to CCP to sell GTC. You gave Atari money to buy those GTC. And now, you're left holding the bag. Everyone that matters got their money except you because you're a consumer and don't really matter. See how an economy works?


Of course, now the OP should go to every major MMORPG website and magazine and make well known that CCP accepted deals with a very soon bankrupt company, without any single bit of due diligence.

*I*, a stupid end user, knew that Atary was going bankrupt since 2006. Yet CCP made a deal with them.

Edit: no sure if it's widely known but it's several years Atari was so low on money that they could not distribute more than a portion of the boxes they were meant to, much less in all the countries they were meant to. In my country they could distribute 2 (two) boxes of a MMO in a 1.5M people city vs the hundreds the other distributors do for the other brands.



CCP has no exposure here at all. It must be hard working as a clerk and being a business genius who can predict bankruptcies. And going to "every major MMORPG website and magazine" will do a lot of good as they are populated by adolescents.

"Measure Twice, Cut Once."
MoreThanFaster
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#18 - 2013-02-10 07:47:52 UTC
Ok, CCP use Atari as a reseller, CCP sell to Atari GTC or the possibility to create and sell GTC. when CCP and Atari have made the partnership, CCP has certainly received some money to sell a certain amount of GTC to Atari.

Atari goes bankrupt but why disable the GTC? It's more correct to withdraw from the market retail box not yet sold.
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#19 - 2013-02-10 08:07:47 UTC
Orlacc wrote:

CCP has no exposure here at all. It must be hard working as a clerk and being a business genius who can predict bankruptcies. And going to "every major MMORPG website and magazine" will do a lot of good as they are populated by adolescents.


Look, the guy who wants to toss a smart one liner and fails. Just head over Market Discussion or spend 2 seconds in Google and you'll find you I am a securities trader and I do read (not predict) prices. So the opposite of what you say.

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Dalmont Delantee
Gecko Corp
#20 - 2013-02-10 08:14:07 UTC
1) Not CCP's fault in any way shape or form - a deal was done in good faith with atari
2) Not going to get all your GTC's sorry
3) HTFU
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