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Hi sec PI worth it ?
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Carniflex
StarHunt
Mordus Angels
#21 - 2013-02-12 15:33:46 UTC
Bugsy VanHalen wrote:
I make 100M per week off high sec PI. If you want to know how do a forum search. There are many very detailed posts.Cool


Well if that 100 m is any good depends on how much time you spend for getting that :)

As far as I can see based on the answers in this thread and running a single test planet in sec 0.5 extracting and doing tier 2 the PI in hi sec is questionable undertaking unless you are willing to go through the trouble of running reactions.

I think I'm not tempted for now but I'll keep an open mind and should I encounter any new information giving me a reason to doubt then I'll reevaluate the situation.

Here, sanity... niiiice sanity, come to daddy... okay, that's a good sanity... THWONK! GOT the bastard.
Carniflex
StarHunt
Mordus Angels
#22 - 2013-02-19 09:37:10 UTC
I have concluded that hi sec PI if you are extracting and reacting on spot is not worth it. To reach that conclusion I dropped few colonies on a barren planet in sec 0.5 and couple on a barren planet in NPC 0.0 - the yield differences are quite large. In null sec the yields are approx 5 times greater and that is with 8x extractor heads in hi sec vs 4x extractor heads in null (allowing you to use more factories or a extra storage facility).

The number of clicks is basically the same and with some brains and patience the null sec is not really more dangerous than hi sec in my opinion in this age of jump drives. Well - ok in NPC null it can take a little while for finding that clear moment for making the run to poco in your trusty bestower, but when doing it up to tier 2 it does not need to happen so frequently.

Making it tier 2 means that you turn 30.4 m3 of tier 1 into 7.5 m3 of tier 2 per hour. Launchpad size is 10 000 - so you would need to haul every ~1333 hours if only tier 2 from a single plant goes into that. That is once every 55 days.

If I remember correct then compression ratio was no longer than nice when going from Tier 2 -> Tier 3

That was on alt with all level 4 skills. So getting Tier 3 on a single planet would mean a bit too much micromanegement and optimizing the yields to not overload anything.

Here, sanity... niiiice sanity, come to daddy... okay, that's a good sanity... THWONK! GOT the bastard.
Kaivar Lancer
Doomheim
#23 - 2013-02-20 04:28:22 UTC
Meh. I make 700m-1b per month. That's with 3 PI characters in hi sec.
Carniflex
StarHunt
Mordus Angels
#24 - 2013-02-20 07:52:20 UTC
Kaivar Lancer wrote:
Meh. I make 700m-1b per month. That's with 3 PI characters in hi sec.


I have to assume that this is with running reactions, as I dont see that kind of isk possibility when extracting in hi sec.

Here, sanity... niiiice sanity, come to daddy... okay, that's a good sanity... THWONK! GOT the bastard.
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